If it makes you feel any better let me give you the £3.18 it would have cost had you and I both donated our share of the 27 billion. There you go you now have no complaint
Sorry but I think add to it the revenue we have received as a country, then I suspect we are better off financially than what we started out. But if it helps to increase moral at an already miserable time, then somehow I think it helps, it also gives our youngsters something to strive towards. There are far more positives than negatives.
Bah, that's government spin and we all know it. Assuming the entire population paid 40% tax then those figures might work out. Now subtract those too old, too young, disabled, long term sick, those who don't earn enough to pay tax, those who don't earn enough to pay 40% tax, and the aforementioned unemployed, and all of a sudden that £3 each increases dramatically. As for the money these events have brought in, well I'm sure McDonalds and Coca Cola will enjoy their higher profits, being US companies though I suspect not much of that will end up back with the tax man. Of course, I could always mention the additional cost to UK industry, specifically that in London, caused by the disruption these events brought - wouldn't want to spoil too much of the "wonderful" Lord Coe's propaganda though now would I? haha
We, the British, are no longer in control of a third of the world, reaping tax and resources galore accordingly. We're a small island nation in a massive recession with a record national debt, but also with a declining number of tax payers due to all those groups mentioned and an ageing population. It's time to stop paying for the world to celebrate our supposed "great" nation and pay off what we owe, otherwise I'm sure the younger and unborn generations won't be so chuffed when they're paying 70% tax to cover for a couple of weeks of "fun". So yeah, if that's what you meant by giving our youngsters something to strive towards, I suppose the prospect of paying massive tax rates and working until they're 80 fits with that lol.
As I said, don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I just can't stand all this "it's great for the nation" crap when leaving the emotion aside and looking at the actual facts dictates it isn't.
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I can see the positives it has had, I am not so naive as to not realise the overall expense of this. But to see your child experience something they will never likely experience in their lifetime again, as well as the united spirit it has caused, I am sorry but I just do not agree with your stance.
Don't get me wrong here SJ, I'm not trying to persuade anyone around to my views on this one, I'm just putting an alternative view out there.
To be honest the money has been spent so I'm glad some people like yourself have had a lot of enjoyment out of these events. If it weren't for that then I would be trying to argue this out. All I'm questioning is whether the money should have been spent in the first place given the times we're in at present.
Hmm, not sure you can disagree. While the spirit and what it represents and the whole, bring the world together is an obvious plus. The numbers don't lie.
It's actually quit hard to find a host country that actaully made money in the end. I think only one really made any sort of 'profit'. RM, has it right when concerning the actual cost of running these things. It's more about the haha we won, let's show off more than anything else. Not knocking Britains attempts btw, just pointing out the numbers.
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As the entire Olympics is not yet over, it is not pertinent to say that you cannot argue with the figures, we do not yet know what the final figures are until after the Paralympics. The point is sometimes you have to look a little further than the cost monetry wise. Do not get me wrong, I feel the pinch with regards to the economy everyday, much like the majority of the country. However there are pluses to be gained from this, and if you merely look at one angle I think you are selling it short.
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Hmm, not sure you can disagree. While the spirit and what it represents and the whole, bring the world together is an obvious plus. The numbers don't lie.
It's actually quit hard to find a host country that actaully made money in the end. I think only one really made any sort of 'profit'. RM, has it right when concerning the actual cost of running these things. It's more about the haha we won, let's show off more than anything else. Not knocking Britains attempts btw, just pointing out the numbers.
As the entire Olympics is not yet over, it is not pertinent to say that you cannot argue with the figures, we do not yet know what the final figures are until after the Paralympics. The point is sometimes you have to look a little further than the cost monetry wise. Do not get me wrong, I feel the pinch with regards to the economy everyday, much like the majority of the country. However there are pluses to be gained from this, and if you merely look at one angle I think you are selling it short.
If the main Olympics haven't made money the the Paralympics won't do anything. Unfortunately it's just not popular enough. However, I've no doubt that by the time Cameron's spin doctors have finished then the Olympics will have made the country a squillion gagillion mamillion pounds.
It does not matter what anyone says to you RM, you have your opinion and you will never ever bend even an inch. You will find the negative in it no matter what. I reiterate once again we will merely have to agree to disagree.
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If the main Olympics haven't made money the the Paralympics won't do anything. Unfortunately it's just not popular enough. However, I've no doubt that by the time Cameron's spin doctors have finished then the Olympics will have made the country a squillion gagillion mamillion pounds.
It does not matter what anyone says to you RM, you have your opinion and you will never ever bend even an inch. You will find the negative in it no matter what. I reiterate once again we will merely have to agree to disagree.
Some may see me as negative, I however would say I'm a realist haha. Besides, that last post of mine was clearly just a cheeky jab, nothing really that negative in there.
Anyway, it's always good when I'm proven to be right. I've had many debates with people on the topic of Danny Boyle. That's right, Mr Danny "LOOK AT ME" Boyle. I can't stand him. He's an attention seeker to the extreme, his films are total crap, and he's so predictably "controversial" it's just boring.
I always said from the moment it was announced that him doing the Olympics Ceremony would be twisted into becoming all about him and self-promotion. "No no" people cried, "he's just a patriotic guy who's good at shaking things up" they insisted. I disagreed, pointing out the truth about him, but still they insisted.
That's right, a bloody film of the 3 hour long "LOOK AT ME" extravaganza. Oh what a treat, I'm sure that'll be as gripping as Slumdog Millionaire (predictable and crap), Trainspotting (one of the dullest films I've ever seen and NOT controversial, it just tries very hard to be), and let's not forget, 127 Hours (a film about one man trapped by a rock in a tight space and unable to move - yawn).
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"Boyle told The Guardian that he hopes the disc will “make things clearer” for audiences, allowing them more time to spot details and references they may have missed during their first viewing."
Really Danny, you want to "make things clearer", do you?! Well done, you've achieved that you smug git. You can't even do one thing for your country without exploiting it to the full, making it all about you, raping it for every last drop of self-congratulation and outright profiteering at the same time.
He really is a dispicable, talentless, northern oik who was clearly never told as a child "if you keep acting up you get nothing". Still, I tried to warn people, no one listened, and now I've been proven right.
If people are seriously going to buy that DVD they need their heads examining. Even merely considering purchasing that DVD means you almost certainly have CJD, Dementia, or Brain AIDS.
Even worse, if anyone actually thinks that 3 hour fest of non-sensical, rambling, predictable, attention seeking and stereotypical crap sums up what it's like to be a Brit then I must be a Mongolian!
On a final note, isn't this just a face you want to keep punching til it goes limp and stops twitching?
Just be glad. We got stiffed and did not get to see the who play cause of a commercial block. I liked both the opening and closing. But if you were not English it was confusing. I spent lots of time explaining why the watt steam engine was there and so forth.
Oh and really, where was sir Paul. If someone asked and he said no shame, but if they didn't ask more shame.
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