Changed a couple of things.

1) The bug is solved where it would appear in DOND that the banker stole 1 geo from you when you dealt. Stupid mistake. Setting for the table in the database didn't allow any decimals(they are there though you don't see em). :blush2

2) People have gotten used to not dealing, because the banker's offers are usually too low. Basically they are like the TV show. But in the TV show it's about real money, and you only get to play once.While here everyone thinks: always go all the way and don't deal, and in the end you'll always win. The bankers offers are now higher, in the hope people will deal more often.

3) Every now and then you will have a 'joker' inside the case where the 10k would be when you are chosing what case will be your own. In that case, when you choose the 10k, all cases are mixed again and you might end up with a totally different amount. So update number 2 is the good news, this might be bad news for some. This has been done for 2 things:
To make cheating harder. I don't know yet if it is possible, but if one found a hole to see where the 10k is before chosing, he or she might now still end up with another.
Also to make the game more a game of thinking for yourself, instead of pure luck. On TV they practically never have the highest one, yet here it seemed to pop up way too much. DOND didn't became a thrilling game, but just a moneytree with a certainty of geos practically every week.

So all in all you could say it's wise to sometimes listen to the banker. Some lucky players will probably still have the 10k in their case twice a week. But hoping this will stabilize the game(as we are still in the beginning of a new round) a little more. Just a tiny bit. And hoping it will make the game more exciting(as some would now rather just click on the case they own and see whats in it to end the game right away).

I like the new update. Im going to go play right now :)

Wait so If I choose my case and its the 10 k case it gets shuffled back in ?

Only if you are unlucky. So it's not like: you pick the 10k, so you lose it again. And though it is fair(remember in the show you don't get to pick your case, it's given to you and you almost never have the top one, and here the chance still is big), i'll also stabilize it a little by doing the same to the 1 geo(so you can actually still get lucky in your own case when chosing the 1 geo).

Is there any place I can view the TV show you are looking at Luke, as here in Australia DOND works very, very differently then this game plays and if you are basing this game on your version of the show I would like to watch the show to see how it all works.

Basically in Australia there are 26 cases, the player picks their case at the start and then I dont know how many are picked at a time, but I do know then last 4 or 5 cases are picked one at a time, with bank offers in-between, oh and when 26 is picked everyone yells out BOOYA! :D

Is there any place I can view the TV show you are looking at Luke, as here in Australia DOND works very, very differently then this game plays and if you are basing this game on your version of the show I would like to watch the show to see how it all works.

Basically in Australia there are 26 cases, the player picks their case at the start and then I dont know how many are picked at a time, but I do know then last 4 or 5 cases are picked one at a time, with bank offers in-between, oh and when 26 is picked everyone yells out BOOYA! :D

yeah, what he said

yeah, what he said
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Yeah but what country is Luke watching in? Netherlands? Belgium? Germany? Norway? Sweden? Finland? Denmark? I know he lives around there somewhere?

Yeah but what country is Luke watching in? Netherlands? Belgium? Germany? Norway? Sweden? Finland? Denmark? I know he lives around there somewhere?yea it's The Netherlands, and here we have a 2 shows. One that is just like you said Ska (where you can win up to 5 million euro's) and we have another one which Luke is talking about (you win up to 250.000 euro's). In this show there are I think the same amount of players and everybody has a case, then there is a question round and the one that answers the question right and the fastest gets to play the game with the case he already had.

Only if you are unlucky. So it's not like: you pick the 10k, so you lose it again. And though it is fair(remember in the show you don't get to pick your case, it's given to you and you almost never have the top one, and here the chance still is big), i'll also stabilize it a little by doing the same to the 1 geo(so you can actually still get lucky in your own case when chosing the 1 geo).


I saw the TV show in taiwan and singapore ....
the players are allow to PICK the case~~~!!!

I think you are allowed to pick your case everywhere! The Sa DOND sucks, but the brittish 1 I like! :)

In Holland you are not allowed to pick the case. Not in the daily show. You get one. Then you have to answer a question. Everytime 4 or 5 answer correctly. Then a computer chooses one of those 4 or 5. And that way you practically never see someone own the 250,000.

Here you do get to pick in this game. You even get to pick the 10k. All there is, is a small chance to pick a 'joker' now and then. Which is meant to fight both a possible cheater that found a way to see where the 10k is, and to stabilize the game. On the other had, that is why the offers went up, and the same can happen with the 1 geo.

Besides the above, also the DOND Gewar game became quite dull. Most weren't really 'playing' it anymore, they were just clicking as fast as they could to open their own case. Because calculated, you always win in the end if you just ignore the bank. I'm trying to change the game a little. Make it a fun game, instead of just your daily routine for some gewar geos.

And any tips on how to do that are welcome ofcourse. Any changes that could be good? Any additions? Remember it's in beta, so all is allowed to change.

An error this evening in the latest update caused a problem where people were not getting their geos from DOND(after collecting it by using the link).

The error has been corrected. Go back to your game and press the link again to collect your geos!

For 2 users, I have deposited it manually.

*this error was caused by the stupidity of yours truly, because he put so much geos in his own account for quick refunds and to fund all games masters, that he actually after testing even didn't realize he didn't get the geos from DOND. As by the time he collected, bank interest also came, and looked like DOND money came rolling in...:blackeye *

I love a tripple post:


It seems the banker is going down more rapidly then before my changes. Meaning more geos are won. Strangely enough a LOT of people got 4500 and 6250 geos. But i noticed for the first time a lot of people dealing.

And the offers were quite good. Sometimes above the average of 2 cases. Maybe that does make a difference?

*on another note: i made the 'joker' popup almost never. as you might have noticed. instead i'm thinking of just dealing out the cases the moment you choose. that way, potentially cheaters can't look where the case it before chosing it. i thought i made it waterproof, but there is a rumour going around some can see what case has the high amount in it. therefor taking some action.

I love a tripple post:


It seems the banker is going down more rapidly then before my changes. Meaning more geos are won. Strangely enough a LOT of people got 4500 and 6250 geos. But i noticed for the first time a lot of people dealing.

And the offers were quite good. Sometimes above the average of 2 cases. Maybe that does make a difference?

*on another note: i made the 'joker' popup almost never. as you might have noticed. instead i'm thinking of just dealing out the cases the moment you choose. that way, potentially cheaters can't look where the case it before chosing it. i thought i made it waterproof, but there is a rumour going around some can see what case has the high amount in it. therefor taking some action.


I wish you could just find out who....and ban their **** for good....lol.....such a great game to play..I would hate to see it ruined by some pieces of poo

Hey luke, my suggestion, have bank offers between the last 4 or 5 cases, meaning you do the last 4 or 5 cases with bank offerings each time a case is picked, up until the last case.

Because really, you should be able to choose to go on or deal at that stage in the game I reckon, what do you think?

Hey luke, my suggestion, have bank offers between the last 4 or 5 cases, meaning you do the last 4 or 5 cases with bank offerings each time a case is picked, up until the last case.

Because really, you should be able to choose to go on or deal at that stage in the game I reckon, what do you think?

yes that sound like a good idea!!!

But thats also part of the risk, right...just like in the real game. If you choose not to deal, you know the risk is you have to pick 3 cases.

Don't you think if you can just pick one, that people will certainly not deal? They'll keep on taking the risk, thinking: ah it's just one more.

But thats also part of the risk, right...just like in the real game. If you choose not to deal, you know the risk is you have to pick 3 cases.

Don't you think if you can just pick one, that people will certainly not deal? They'll keep on taking the risk, thinking: ah it's just one more.

Yes I agree and think it should stay as is! You can't make it that easy, people will def not deal then! There have to be some risk involved... :cheesy

well even if somebody attempts to view the source code im sure you could mask the amount in the case with a selected group of characters that only you know representing the amounts in the cases example hj543 = 10,000 kfofhj = 8ooo geos and so on

Yes I agree and think it should stay as is! You can't make it that easy, people will def not deal then! There have to be some risk involved... :cheesy

Yeah but then it depends on the deal the bank gives, whether they want to risk just going 1 more.

1 case could be devestating, and so there is more pressure on the player, whether to risk just one more or not.

I refuse to play because having the last 4 cases all at once is crap.

5 cases remain in the end. 3 you have to pick in the last round.

But thats what the original Deal Or No Deal is too. I don't know how some countries might have changed it, but I never heard of a Deal Or No Deal where you get to pick one and then decide to go on. Doesn't sound like a thrill to me.

Very simple:

Say you have: 300,500,1000,8000 and 10000.

Right now you have to pick 3. Thats the risk...the game is about trying to get you to deal. So if a good offer comes, you might finally deal, because the alternative might be that you pick all high ones.

If you get to pick 1, you woul now never deal. Because you could afford to try it. There are more lower than higher numbers in it, so why stop? Should you pick the 300, you would continue again.

To me, it sounds like the opposite of what we're trying to reach. And that is to make the risk too high, but also make the offer reasonable enough for people to deal. Otherwise people just click on to get to the end again.

for whatever it's worth...

in the states (where i believe it started) you do only have to pick one case at a time after a particular point. I can't remember when that happens though..

I actually think more people would deal if you did that...

The US version has 26 cases so maybe that is why they go to the one case picks at the end. You know how us Americans are, everything to excess.
You can see the progression on this flash version. (http://www.teenfreearcade.com/game/501/Deal-or-No-Deal.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_or_No_Deal

Actually Deal Or No Deal started in Holland ;)


Deal or No Deal is the name of several closely related television (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television) game shows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_shows), the first of which (launching the format) was produced by Dutch producer Endemol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemol).


The whole format of it is based on that one. The other one is Million Deal Or No Deal. That is the one you are talking about. It's based on the original, but with a lot of differences.

Creating something like that could be done in time, but it would mean there would be more cases(with also more lower amounts), and the game itself would cost more as the risk in that one is lower.

I just saw an American one on the internet. Eh...thats not really the game I aimed for when creating this. In the end, they get to pick 1 case each time. That is only done to show emotions on the screen. The camera can zoom in while they have a difficult time deciding whether to deal or not to deal. In a game, this wouldn't be fun. Not enough risk. Risk can be calculated, and as you can play again tomorrow... who cares....just click until you would have 3 left. While in a game I think it only works if when your game is looking good, you can still fall and lose all, and you know it upfront.