Electric Smoking

[Luke]

I was curious if anyone tried it out yet?
I'm smoking electric already, and I love it.

It's so weird actually.

Just the thought that you have an electric device in your hand, you put in a capsule(which is the same as 1-2 packs of sigarettes but only costs 1/5) and then you actually smoke. You hear the burning of tobacco(fake ofcourse...soundeffect) and the top lights op, and you actually feel smoke entering your throat and lungs.
And you even blow out smoke.
Still weird to look at, but it tastes rather good.
I've totally stopped smoking anything but electric.
As with electric smoking, the only bad substance is nicotine, and you can't get cancer from that(they claim).
The rest you breath in is stuff like water and vanilla.
Other people don't smell it, and therefor according to Dutch law, you can smoke anywhere...even at work unless they don't want you to because of how it makes the company look.
KLM has even allowed electric smoking on airplanes.

Anyone tried it yet?
I've bought 2 different ones, but am hoping for some feedback on possible even better ones.
Anyone also know where to get the 24mg ampules? Here you can only buy the max of 16mg but I read there are also 24mg.

http://www.gewar.net/luuk/esig.jpg

[ghetto bob]

I don't think that it is available in the US yet? If I do a google search for electric smoker or smoking or smoke, I get stuff to make smoked meat... Got a link so I can check it out?

[Luke]

I don't think that it is available in the US yet? If I do a google search for electric smoker or smoking or smoke, I get stuff to make smoked meat... Got a link so I can check it out?

Search for Janty or partysmoker. Those seem to be the best.

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=buy+janty+electric+smoking&meta=

http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=buy+partysmoker+&meta=

[Hypie]

I haven't tried it yet, I'm sticking to the real ones ;)

[ghetto bob]

Interesting stuff, FAQ's here along with links to all of the different brands.
http://members.chello.nl/b.oostende/FAQ.htm#english
also in Dutch at the top of the page if you prefer...

[Luke]

http://www.esigaret.nl/index.php?lang=1


How about this one?
And yes, Hypie, a lot stick to the real ones.
But I must say this is much cheaper, you feel healthier after a few days and get your taste and sense of odor back, and it really tastes like a cigarette(plus you are allowed to smoke anywhere).
And your girlfriend won't complain that you taste like tobacco ;).

Here is a clip for the Ruyan electric cigarette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz2CFa4I2DM

[Hypie]

http://www.esigaret.nl/index.php?lang=1


How about this one?
And yes, Hypie, a lot stick to the real ones.
But I must say this is much cheaper, you feel healthier after a few days and get your taste and sense of odor back, and it really tastes like a cigarette(plus you are allowed to smoke anywhere).
And your girlfriend won't complain that you taste like tobacco ;).

Here is a clip for the Ruyan electric cigarette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz2CFa4I2DMhehe that's true my girlfriend always complains about the smell so I have to eat a piece of gum :)

This one is very populair here, almost every hour I see this stupid commercial
Supersmoker (http://supersmoker.com/en/)

[Luke]

hehe that's true my girlfriend always complains about the smell so I have to eat a piece of gum :)

This one is very populair here, almost every hour I see this stupid commercial
Supersmoker (http://supersmoker.com/en/)

I own the supermoker and the partysmoker.
I have to say the supersmoker isn't that great.
Compared to the partysmoker, the supersmoker tastes like light cigs.
It also doesn't become as 'hot' as the partysmoker.

*edit: Also the supersmoker comes with 1 rechargable battery, and the partysmoker with 2. Which means that you can't smoke the supersmoker when you are recharging. The supersmoker is also more expensive.

[Dan]

does it give you the same head rush as with a normal bogey?

do they sell them in the us?

[Luke]

does it give you the same head rush as with a normal bogey?

do they sell them in the us?

My sister ordered hers from China, so they should be available everywhere.
The first time I definately had a head rush because I smoked too much.
I got too much nicotine :D

[ghetto bob]

does it give you the same head rush as with a normal bogey?

do they sell them in the us?

Looks as though you can import them, the unit itself can be quite pricey, think I saw the PartySmoker for about $185. That one seems to be the best?

[Luke]

Looks as though you can import them, the unit itself can be quite pricey, think I saw the PartySmoker for about $185. That one seems to be the best?

That's weird. I bought the partysmoker in Holland for 69 euro. THat's about 100 dollars(or not even).

[ghetto bob]

That's weird. I bought the partysmoker in Holland for 69 euro. THat's about 100 dollars(or not even).
Yes you are correct. 68 euro, must have been the Ruyan for $185

[Dan]

hmm it would be wicked to pull one of those out in the middle of school and be like shut up (insert teachers name here) im not smoking haha

and there is absolutely no smell at all? like if i used it in my room, you couldn't smell it?

[Luke]

hmm it would be wicked to pull one of those out in the middle of school and be like shut up (insert teachers name here) im not smoking haha

and there is absolutely no smell at all? like if i used it in my room, you couldn't smell it?

The normal cartridges don't smell. Though if one prefers, there are cartridges available with a nice smell(like vanille or something).

They claim the law says that you are allowed to smoke anywhere, as it's not harmful to anyone and shouldn't be considered 'real smoking'.
As an example they say here you are suddenly allowed to smoke at work.
Though some companies don't allow it because it can confuse other people as there is real smoke coming out of your mouth.

[Luke]

Small update. I tested a few e-sigarets right now.

Here is what I found out:
Supersmoker: Most famous in Holland, but don't know how it's beyond the boundaries. I own it. It's junk. Don't buy it ever. Looks like plastic, and doesn't smoke that good. When first trying it you'll be amazed that you are smoking electric, but later on you'll notice it takes a lot of effort to get the amount of smoke you want. (score: 3 out of 10)

Ruyan: Oh this is the original. The rest is just imitation they claim. Well it's good. But it's really expensive. The taste of their capsules is the best however, but their capsules work in other e-sigarets also. The sigaret itself isn't the best. The amount of smoke is good, but not great. You won't really feel it in your throat, but you will in the lungs. (score: 7 out of 10)

Mini Sigaret: Now this is funny. It is as big as a normal sigaret, and looks like it. It even has a normal filter. Other people won't notice just like that, that you are smoking electric. Too bad that it's one of the only one with capsules that can't be used on other e-sigarets, and the e-sigaret isn't too great. I still don't feel it in the throat while smoking. (score 5 out of 10)

Janty: Now that's smoking. You actually feel the smoke going through your throat like normal smoke. It's also really cheap. For a 40 euro's, you can own one. Supplied with even 2 batteries so you can keep on smoking while one battery is recharging. Good buy. Sister owns it. (score 8 out of 10)

Partysmoker: Wow, the best. Also supplied with 2 batteries. This one gives as much smoke, or even more, than a normal sigaret. You feel the smoke in your throat, and it tastes like a normal sigaret. Ofcourse like most other e-sigarets(except mini sigaret) you can exchange capsules. The capsules delivered with the party smoker might not be the best(apple taste) but you can buy capsules somewhere else. The e-sigaret is the best i've tasted however. And collegeaus of mine agree. If you doubted e-smoking can be as good as normal smoking, try this. I also own this one. (score 9 out of 10)

E-smoking doesn't cause any cancer. Others can't even smell it. You are the only one tasting it. It doesn't do harm, unless you smoke too much because it's sooo cheap. Then nicotine can still make you sick. The partysmoker and the Ruyan are protected against this however. If the partysmoker or Ruyan think you are going towards a nicotine-poisoning, it blocks for 30 minutes. However you need a LOT of inhalation to do this.

In no way however can that smoke harm other people.

So if you want to smoke, but not have a bad breath....then try the partysmoker or janty. Cheap and really works.

I found out you can buy it all across the world, in every country.

[Luke]

Another little update:

I'm sooo happy with my partysmoker, that today I ordered the mini-cigarette from partysmoker. It's a little more expensive, but then you get this:

http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/doospartysmokerrps.jpg

It looks like a normal cigarette, but is the first mini-cigarette that is supposed to smoke like one too.
The partysmoker already did. Is also cheaper. But some think it looks weird as it looks like a pencil(like all other electronic cigarettes).
I have to say I do smoke more since I'm smoking electric. I spent about a 150 dollars on cartridges and now have about enough for a whole year :p
So I keep on smoking. But it just tastes too good once you get used to it.

I'm very happy to announce I haven't smoked a real cigarette in over a week now.
Officially I have now quit smoking, as electric smoking isn't considered smoking. You only inhale water and nicotine. To you it is like smoking, tastes like smoking, but it's the same effect as chewing nicotine gum. Only nicotine.

If you think electronic smoking is that different from normal smoking, check out Jan's(owner partysmoker) movie he made below:


http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/rps.MPG (http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/rps.MPG)

[thomas85]

Another little update:

I'm sooo happy with my partysmoker, that today I ordered the mini-cigarette from partysmoker. It's a little more expensive, but then you get this:

http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/doospartysmokerrps.jpg

It looks like a normal cigarette, but is the first mini-cigarette that is supposed to smoke like one too.
The partysmoker already did. Is also cheaper. But some think it looks weird as it looks like a pencil(like all other electronic cigarettes).
I have to say I do smoke more since I'm smoking electric. I spent about a 150 dollars on cartridges and now have about enough for a whole year :p
So I keep on smoking. But it just tastes too good once you get used to it.

I'm very happy to announce I haven't smoked a real cigarette in over a week now.
Officially I have now quit smoking, as electric smoking isn't considered smoking. You only inhale water and nicotine. To you it is like smoking, tastes like smoking, but it's the same effect as chewing nicotine gum. Only nicotine.

If you think electronic smoking is that different from normal smoking, check out Jan's(owner partysmoker) movie he made below:


http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/rps.MPG (http://partystuff.nl/partystuff.nl/esigaret/images/rps.MPG)

This is an interesting way of smoking. You don't get cancer but it looks like it's still addictive, haha. I never smoked and I think I will also not try out this. I'm already addicted to Gewar, that's enough. :crazy :p

[Luke]

This is an interesting way of smoking. You don't get cancer but it looks like it's still addictive

Well in Holland they are now making a little problem out of this. Just discussions within the government. They claim this could actually get people addicted. As ofcourse it's still addictive.
But it's only meant for smokers, not for non-smokers.
Ofcourse this is just a cover-up because they want to get taxes on it like normal tobacco. Though they now want to make it a 'medicine', causing smokers to either keep on smoking normal(taxes again), or to make them buy it as medicine(taxes again).
Though if they do that, I'll just buy everything straight from China. Very easy.

And I combine my 3 addictions and they work great:
1) Electric Smoking
2) Gewar
3) Beer

Great combination.

[helo]

So how does this thing work? Does it make a noise while it is working?

[Luke]

So how does this thing work? Does it make a noise while it is working?

http://members.chello.nl/b.oostende/diagram_en.jpg

The mouthpiece(inhaler) is also the cartridge. You click that into the vaporizer.
The battery has the pneumatic switch and you screw it onto the vaporizer.
As soon as you start to draw breath, the pneumatic switch turns the electronic cigarette on, as air starts to flow through the middle of the battery.
Vaporizer becomes really hot right away, and burns a little from the cartridge while air flows through it, into your mouth. Giving you only smoke from the stuff inside the cartridge. Which is usually water and nicotine, with a little flavour.

The led at the front lights up, and looks like the top of a cigarette. As air is being sucked in through tiny holes, you also hear the sound you usually hear when drawing on your cigarette.

Me, my sister and Amy already call it the invention of this century, as to us it's the only way of really quitting smoking. Heck, I even continue to smoke this way. Tastes too good :).

[helo]

very unusual. I will need to see if it is possible to get one of these on our side of the pond.

Would be a great way for me to stop smoking.

[Luke]

very unusual. I will need to see if it is possible to get one of these on our side of the pond.

Would be a great way for me to stop smoking.

http://ruyanstore.ecrater.com/category.php?cid=268019
Worldwide shipping.

The janty is a great one.
It's from Ruyan as you might've already seen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFyeYtTbeQ


Or see the mini cigarette here(though the specific model shown there was kinda crappy, there are great ones already):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqETglk_S8

[BabyD]

I'm holding out for electric meth.

[Bisbicos]

I'm holding out for electric meth.

count me in babyd

[Luke]

Trust me, for smokers this is the invention of the century :bow

[Red Ivan]

Trust me, for smokers this is the invention of the century :bow
LOL... stop bumping this. I quit cold turkey 2.5 months ago and you're driving me nuts!

[Luke]

LOL... stop bumping this. I quit cold turkey 2.5 months ago and you're driving me nuts!

Officially a *bump* is when you respond to your own post to get it on top again.
The thread was already on top when I answerred.
I answerred to try and make people enthousiastic so they would try it :).
People hesitate to try it out as they don't know much about it yet.

[Red Ivan]

Officially a *bump* is when you respond to your own post to get it on top again.
The thread was already on top when I answerred.
I answerred to try and make people enthousiastic so they would try it :).
People hesitate to try it out as they don't know much about it yet.
:big_boss Luke............ :girl_were

[Joedeuces124]

I would definitely try it but its just too expensive. Im up to 2 packs a day and I know id save money in the long run but idk. I have been thinking about it since I saw it though.

[WILDCAT1976]

if ya gonna smoke...then fire it up

if ya gonna quit...then quit..

electric smoking...blahhhhhhhhh.....fire it up brother!!!!!

[Apollyonna]

if ya gonna smoke...then fire it up

if ya gonna quit...then quit..

electric smoking...blahhhhhhhhh.....fire it up brother!!!!!
;yes ;yes ;yes ;yes

[Apollyonna]

I would definitely try it but its just too expensive. Im up to 2 packs a day and I know id save money in the long run but idk. I have been thinking about it since I saw it though.

2 ? wuzz :p

[WILDCAT1976]

I would definitely try it but its just too expensive. Im up to 2 packs a day and I know id save money in the long run but idk. I have been thinking about it since I saw it though.

2 packs a day..in southern jersey...wowsers...what bout $9 a day for ya?

[Apollyonna]

Still cheaper than 4 x $4.- a day ;)

[Red Ivan]

if ya gonna smoke...then fire it up

if ya gonna quit...then quit..

electric smoking...blahhhhhhhhh.....fire it up brother!!!!!
Fire what up? The electric cigarette? Or are you saying that you should either smoke actual cigarettes or not smoke at all? I'm telling you WC, I'm calling your boss and telling him to check your office's mini-fridge for beer. ;)

WC you quit when Lily was born, right? You still clean?

[WILDCAT1976]

Still cheaper than 4 x $4.- a day ;)

4 packs a day....wowsers....then you really don't hafta worry bout how much they cost..you'll be dead in a week or 2 :growse ;banana

[Joedeuces124]

Actually 6 bux a pack but a friend mail orders mine for 25 a carton

[WILDCAT1976]

Fire what up? The electric cigarette? Or are you saying that you should either smoke actual cigarettes or not smoke at all? I'm telling you WC, I'm calling your boss and telling him to check your office's mini-fridge for beer. ;)

WC you quit when Lily was born, right? You still clean?

smoke actual cigs or don't smoke at all.

and I fell off the wagon months ago :crazy :crazy :crazy smoke em if ya got em

[Apollyonna]

4 packs a day....wowsers....then you really don't hafta worry bout how much they cost..you'll be dead in a week or 2 :growse ;banana

I was told that many moons ago already :big_boss

[WILDCAT1976]

Actually 6 bux a pack but a friend mail orders mine for 25 a carton

I bout 5 minutes from Kentucky and can still buy them straight up for 25 a carton...and if you can score a $4.00 off coupon....ohhhh yeah!!!!!!!

[Apollyonna]

What do you smoke ? Misty ? LOL

[Joedeuces124]

I bout 5 minutes from Kentucky and can still buy them straight up for 25 a carton...and if you can score a $4.00 off coupon....ohhhh yeah!!!!!!!

Same way here if you take the 40 minute drive to delaware

I smoke Kools, you seem like a Newport smoker and wildcat,marlboro?

[Red Ivan]

Argh. Maybe I'll bum one off of a co-worker. lol u guyzzzzzzzzzzzz stop, this thread is going ;offtopic

[WILDCAT1976]

Same way here if you take the 40 minute drive to delaware

I smoke Kools, you seem like a Newport smoker and wildcat,marlboro?
marlboro ultra light 100s..hehehehehe

[Apollyonna]

Marlboro Lights, the International version

[WILDCAT1976]

Argh. Maybe I'll bum one off of a co-worker. lol u guyzzzzzzzzzzzz stop, this thread is going ;offtopic

yeah, that's no good...we are killing the owner's thread..never a good idea :sealed

[Apollyonna]

OK, here is my 2c.. I have heard of people who smoked the Ruyan product and they thought it was awful... I guess to each their own taste...

I have smoked a tobacco heat bar and I didn't like it... taste of hot, wet cardboard..

[Red Ivan]

OK, here is my 2c.. I have heard of people who smoked the Ruyan product and they thought it was awful... I guess to each their own taste...

I have smoked a tobacco heat bar and I didn't like it... taste of hot, wet cardboard..
More awful than lung cancer?

[Apollyonna]

If you meant they taste worse than regular cigarettes then yes...

[Red Ivan]

If you meant they taste worse than regular cigarettes then yes...
Regular cigarettes taste wonderful. I meant was the flavor discrepancy worth the raised chance of lung cancer..

[Apollyonna]

To me yes... and can you please lead me to some scientific evidence of cigarettes leading to cancer ? I still haven't found any... just a lot of talk...

[WILDCAT1976]

Regular cigarettes taste wonderful. I meant was the flavor discrepancy worth the raised chance of lung cancer..

What about the people who only smoke real cigs because they like to put their cigs out on their random body parts? I'm sure the electric cig doesn't leave a cool scar like real cigs do ;bgrin

[Apollyonna]

huh ? :eek:

[Red Ivan]

To me yes... and can you please lead me to some scientific evidence of cigarettes leading to cancer ? I still haven't found any... just a lot of talk...

lol who are you, Nick Naylor?

[Luke]

OK, here is my 2c.. I have heard of people who smoked the Ruyan product and they thought it was awful... I guess to each their own taste...

I have smoked a tobacco heat bar and I didn't like it... taste of hot, wet cardboard..

Yeah I tried the Ruyan. Definetaly not my style. Not much taste and hardly smoke. No feeling in my throat either.
Yet the partysmoker and janty are addictive. From the first moment I tried it, I had the feeling of really smoking. Much stronger than a cigarette also.
Fire up a partysmoker and after that you won't feel the normal cigarette in your throat and lungs anymore. The partysmoker is much stronger.
The bad side however is that it tastes and feels so good, you might have it in your mouth all evening, making you only more addicted to nicotine than before.
That ofcourse is someones own responsibility. Don't use too strong cartridges.

Electric smoking sometimes gets a bad name due to bad electric cigarettes. Janty and Partysmoker are the top ones. Ruyan is the best one in guarantee however. I believe they give 2 years of guarantee in Holland.
Example: Supersmoker doesn't give any guarantee at all.

But I'll tell you, and I cant gain money on this so you know I'm not bullsh i tting around: Already 7 collegeaus of mine, that tried the partysmoker and coughed their lungs out, now bought it. A healthy way of coughing yourself to death :)
What more do you want? :)

[benstern]

If there was THC in there instead of nicotine, it would be an instant hit on the underground US market.

[thomas85]

If there was THC in there instead of nicotine, it would be an instant hit on the underground US market.
:rofl hahaha
Maybe it's even already existing!

[ghetto bob]

Belgium has outlawed e-cigs??? (http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23)

[Luke]

And Holland might be going the same way.
They claim it's because it's a medicine.
Therefor it must be fully tested on and you should only get through your own doctor.
They don't want it to be out in the open market.

But a lot suspect that it is because people are both stopping to smoke, and those that continue with the e-cigarette don't pay the huge taxes on cigarettes.

It's outrageous. Supersmoker is even filing charges against the government, and will fight it out in court.
Everyone knows how much people die each year because of smoking. And now they can either smoke in a healthier way without affecting other people with smoke, or finally try to quit by using this.
And what does the government say: Well if people use it to quit, then it's a medicine and shouldn't be in the shops.

Crazy!

[ghetto bob]

It figures...
The government isn't getting their 'cut'

It's the same no matter where you go in the world...

[Luke]

Yeah they wouldn't even lift the age to buy cigs.
You can buy them when you are 16.
A proposal to make that 18 didn't make it.
Also they wanted cigarettes not to be in display. Also didn't make it.
Pictures of black lungs on packs of cigs....also didn't make it.

An electronic cigarette that can be used to stop smoking, or smoke without getting cancer: wow, well suddenly thats a big no no. That's a medicine and should not be sold just like that. Even without nicotine it shouldn't be sold they say in Belgium(and perhaps later here too), because it still gives the feeling of smoking :p

No...imagine people actually quitting :p
Government loses money and people get older(retirement funds will be hurt).