老色狼帮忙翻译下，可能有点累，改一改不对的地方，拜托！以下言论只代表我个人

黑客事件已经轰动了所有的GE游戏玩家，而管理员先生认定是中国玩家所为，究其根源是一个来自中国的ip。 管理员甚至详细的描绘了这个黑客一年来的一举一动，从入侵到攻击。我甚至能想像出这个人在电脑前废寝忘食地 工作，而管理员们与他斗智斗勇了整整一年。《黑客帝国》?

但这并不是一部完美的小说，故事的主人公缺少一个名字。而玩过《杀手》的玩家都清楚，杀手至少还有一个代号 ，叫47。

我不理解为什么管理员不公布袭击者的ip地址，而他明明清楚公布对他来讲将会是极其有利的---这将会成强有力的证据---封掉像我这样顽固不化人的嘴。而以WTO中国的的人脉关系，翻出来这个人只是时间问题，至少我们可以找出他 所在的城市。

但是管理员先生没有，仍然想给我们想象的空间，以使得这个故事延续......
或许他已经给出了这个主人公的名字：Some Chinese。

从没见过管理员如此的强调国籍！我不并想说什么种族歧视，Luke不是这种人。攻击服务器的事情时有发生， 一次DDOS攻击再普通不过。我想管理员也遭遇过全世界的形形色色的攻击，但是为什么仅单单抓住中国不放？ 退一步讲，即便真是一个中国籍黑客干掉了宝贝服务器，又能如何呢？那是他的个人行为。将私人恩怨上升到国际 问题？而管理员的警告只针对全体中国玩家，我不得不怀疑这个游戏的公平性！我还是那句话：全球通讯，几台中 国的代理服务器说明不了问题。

（历史上倒是有件类似的事：传言希特勒因为一个犹太妓女染上性病，企图灭掉优秀的犹太族。）

所以黑客不过是个导火索，小题大做，必有文章。故事的背后还会有故事。

所有的玩家都希望能公平竞赛。但事实并不是如此：有人可以抢占核城做到无城不摧，连下数十城池无一失手；有 人可以在一秒钟内攻击同一座城市两次，让你没有还手之力；有人可以在己方城市遭受攻击时自动派出部队，当然 ，只要他的电脑开机。我不相信上述事情没有人遭遇过，我相信大家都品尝过败在那个抢城之王手下的滋味，无论 你用多高的带宽。不公平？作弊？没有一个管理员表示过怀疑啊！

WTO人员挖宝是动力十足的，但我们很遵守一天600上限的规则。四野挖到视网膜脱落，他很认真的在玩。重 启以来，我们大多数人都是一天近10个小时在线，以求得在新的一轮中占得先机。从另一方面讲，我们经历了这 么多浩劫，终于走到一起，有了统一的组织和规划，联盟人员以从未有过的热情投入到游戏中去。我们珍惜来之不 易的统一。但是我不理解为什么努力的结果得到的却是作弊的质疑。我不是神，我不清楚联盟中有没有害群之马。 如果有，ban掉他，但也似乎没有必要如此的大张旗鼓。中国玩家多是个不争的事实，就比例来看，出现作弊者 的人数可能会比别的国家多。但是我要声明一点，被管理员定义的作弊者一定要有足够的证据，并且公布，否则仅 仅因为说了几句不该说的话就被封掉，那根本没有公平性可言。但现在的情况就是这样，没有任何公开的证据，我 们损失了几个优秀的玩家。

但helo说过这样的话：
In all honesty, I would propose a gradual increase based upon the total amount of geos in play, in which the amount that can be jeweled would increase on a weekly basis until at maximum capacity. This would be about what ? 2000 jewels? Surely noone does more than that.. I usually topped at 2k a day last round for about 2500 geos.
以每15分钟50宝计算，2000宝需要600min也就是10小时。这条消息似乎并不是很轰动，以至于管 理员不屑一顾。作弊？我不知道。如果别人能做到一天2000宝，中国人也能做到。所以一天挖2000宝以内 的中国玩家请不要封号。

而每当WTO的资金达到一个高度时，总会有事情发生。正如hi141所说的：

“每当中国玩家，积累了很多$$的时候，就会有来路不明超量资金，向我们打击的 ，手法完全一致。
最初的 Lucid Dream 和 N C 现在NOAW的，如出一辙。
这就叫公平？
luke 来解释一下吧
前几次，如果你忘了，我们可以帮你找到失去的记忆“

故事已经接近主题，WTO以及他前身的强大让一些人不安，从而遭到别人的限制发展。至于为什么只有WTO才 会受到如此礼遇，每个人都有自己的想法。是我们的不幸还是我们的荣幸，只有天知道。现在我所感觉到的，只有 一点点的疲惫、无奈和愤怒。

可是，我们还要面对那个似乎拥有无限资金的NAOW。

如果我有说错的地方使一些人遭到不该有的怀疑，请原谅，也请你感受一下我现在的感受。

公平？世界上真的没有公平。

I cannot put into words how awesome this post is without having the language enabled.

I cannot put into words how awesome this post is without having the language enabled.
So sorry, my English is poor. I don't think using English can well express my emotion. I'm waiting for ronnielim's help. Maybe it's my last thread. All of us may be banned in the future just because we are Chinese. They don't show us anything to prove who is cheating. well, I'm tired, unhappy and a little bit angry.

NAOW has something more than your imagination. They are really rich...
GEWAR POLICE, haha, a really funny joke!
Is it sb's punishment? I have to say Really Fair!

No problem, i wasn't disrespecting your english as i couldnt say a word in chinese. I was just saying i blundered into this post and it looks awesome to someone who only sees questionmarks instead of icons.

and NAOW was pretty rich yea, we might have blown it all by now : )

Nothing serious.
But I don't think you can get enough money just by yourselves.
Maybe you will be angry with these words.

You, Lucid Dream and N C are really the same, own a lot of money and act as a police.

I don't know lucid dream or N C? but we're getting our money fairly thank you.

And how are we acting like police? please, if i can backstab 4 people a day before noon its a good morning. If i can try to zero an alliance with a fake account its a good week.

;) Luke keeps a pretty close eye on cheating, even with me although i am above all suspicion ofcourse.

I don't know lucid dream or N C? but we're getting our money fairly thank you.

And how are we acting like police? please, if i can backstab 4 people a day before noon its a good morning. If i can try to zero an alliance with a fake account its a good week.

;) Luke keeps a pretty close eye on cheating, even with me although i am above all suspicion ofcourse.
I don't say you are cheating. But it's really the same. See what hi141 said
http://www.gewar.net/forums/showthread.php?p=108434#post108434

Maybe you misunderstand my meanings. I don't think NAOW is cheating. :)

老色狼帮忙翻译下，可能有点累，改一改不对的地方，拜托！以下言论只代表我个人
黑客事件已经轰动了所有的GE游戏玩家，而管理员先生认定是中国玩家所为，究其根源是一个来自中国的ip。 管理员甚至详细的描绘了这个黑客一年来的一举一动，从入侵到攻击。我甚至能想像出这个人在电脑前废寝忘食地 工作，而管理员们与他斗智斗勇了整整一年。《黑客帝国》?

但这并不是一部完美的小说，故事的主人公缺少一个名字。而玩过《杀手》的玩家都清楚，杀手至少还有一个代号 ，叫47。

我不理解为什么管理员不公布袭击者的ip地址，而他明明清楚公布对他来讲将会是极其有利的---这将会成强有力的证据---封掉像我这样顽固不化人的嘴。而以WTO中国的的人脉关系，翻出来这个人只是时间问题，至少我们可以找出他 所在的城市。

但是管理员先生没有，仍然想给我们想象的空间，以使得这个故事延续......
或许他已经给出了这个主人公的名字：Some Chinese。

从没见过管理员如此的强调国籍！我不并想说什么种族歧视，Luke不是这种人。攻击服务器的事情时有发生， 一次DDOS攻击再普通不过。我想管理员也遭遇过全世界的形形色色的攻击，但是为什么仅单单抓住中国不放？ 退一步讲，即便真是一个中国籍黑客干掉了宝贝服务器，又能如何呢？那是他的个人行为。将私人恩怨上升到国际 问题？而管理员的警告只针对全体中国玩家，我不得不怀疑这个游戏的公平性！我还是那句话：全球通讯，几台中 国的代理服务器说明不了问题。

（历史上倒是有件类似的事：传言希特勒因为一个犹太妓女染上性病，企图灭掉优秀的犹太族。）

所以黑客不过是个导火索，小题大做，必有文章。故事的背后还会有故事。

所有的玩家都希望能公平竞赛。但事实并不是如此：有人可以抢占核城做到无城不摧，连下数十城池无一失手；有 人可以在一秒钟内攻击同一座城市两次，让你没有还手之力；有人可以在己方城市遭受攻击时自动派出部队，当然 ，只要他的电脑开机。我不相信上述事情没有人遭遇过，我相信大家都品尝过败在那个抢城之王手下的滋味，无论 你用多高的带宽。不公平？作弊？没有一个管理员表示过怀疑啊！

WTO人员挖宝是动力十足的，但我们很遵守一天600上限的规则。四野挖到视网膜脱落，他很认真的在玩。重 启以来，我们大多数人都是一天近10个小时在线，以求得在新的一轮中占得先机。从另一方面讲，我们经历了这 么多浩劫，终于走到一起，有了统一的组织和规划，联盟人员以从未有过的热情投入到游戏中去。我们珍惜来之不 易的统一。但是我不理解为什么努力的结果得到的却是作弊的质疑。我不是神，我不清楚联盟中有没有害群之马。 如果有，ban掉他，但也似乎没有必要如此的大张旗鼓。中国玩家多是个不争的事实，就比例来看，出现作弊者 的人数可能会比别的国家多。但是我要声明一点，被管理员定义的作弊者一定要有足够的证据，并且公布，否则仅 仅因为说了几句不该说的话就被封掉，那根本没有公平性可言。但现在的情况就是这样，没有任何公开的证据，我 们损失了几个优秀的玩家。

但helo说过这样的话：

以每15分钟50宝计算，2000宝需要600min也就是10小时。这条消息似乎并不是很轰动，以至于管 理员不屑一顾。作弊？我不知道。如果别人能做到一天2000宝，中国人也能做到。所以一天挖2000宝以内 的中国玩家请不要封号。

而每当WTO的资金达到一个高度时，总会有事情发生。正如hi141所说的：


“每当中国玩家，积累了很多$$的时候，就会有来路不明超量资金，向我们打击的 ，手法完全一致。
最初的 Lucid Dream 和 N C 现在NOAW的，如出一辙。
这就叫公平？
luke 来解释一下吧
前几次，如果你忘了，我们可以帮你找到失去的记忆“

故事已经接近主题，WTO以及他前身的强大让一些人不安，从而遭到别人的限制发展。至于为什么只有WTO才 会受到如此礼遇，每个人都有自己的想法。是我们的不幸还是我们的荣幸，只有天知道。现在我所感觉到的，只有 一点点的疲惫、无奈和愤怒。

可是，我们还要面对那个似乎拥有无限资金的NAOW。


如果我有说错的地方使一些人遭到不该有的怀疑，请原谅，也请你感受一下我现在的感受。


公平？世界上真的没有公平。



The below statements are purely from my own point of view.....

The Hackers Incident had certainly shaken the GEwar community, and the admin confirm that it was done by a China's Player because the root came from a IP address from China. The admin had detail every moment of the hacker and had been at war with such cases for nearly a year.

But this is not a complete novel as there is no name for the star of the book.

I do not understand why the admin refuse to post the IP of the hacker, as he understand that by doing that will definately benefit him as it was a very strong evidence and will surely shut the mouth of protesters like myself. And with the resources of WTO, digging out this hacker is just a matter of time, at least we can find out which city he is from in China.

But the admin did not do that, he provided us rooms for imagination and let the story continues without an ending.....
Maybe the admin had already know the name of the hacker : "some chinese"

I had never came across any admin that emphasize of race so much. I am not talking about racist here and Luke is not such kind of person. The attack on the server, and DDOS being inflitrated is a very common issue. I believe the admin had been suffering from all kinds of "Attacks" in this living world. But why the finger is only pointed at China ? Even if it is true that a China hacker really attacks the server, what does it prove ? That was his personal doing, so there is no need to raise the issue into national level. But the admin's warning and punishment falls on all China's players, which makes me doubt the fairness in this game! As I had said before, comparing to the world's telecommunications and networks, afew China's ISP cannot really prove anything.

(there was a rumour in the past: Hilter got some HIVs from a jew's *****, therefore he wants to kill every jews in the world)

The hacker story is just the tip of the iceberg, more is being hidden behind to continue the story.

Every player wish to compete with fairness. But actually it is not:
some players can snatch a Nuked city with ease, taking on nuke cities in a row with missing once;
some players can attack a city twice in a sec, leaving you defenceless against it;
some players can send out troops "automatically" when their cities are under threat, of coz...he needs to leave his computer on.
I do not believe no one never encounter any of the above mentioned. How does it feel that you always lose snatching a nuke city to the same guy no matter how fast your connections are ?
is it unfair ? is it cheating ? no admin ever suspect that !!!

WTO members are encourage to jewel, but we obey the 600 limit rule. SIYE even injured his retina becoz of that, he is a very serious player. Ever since the reset, most of us were online 10hrs daily, just to make sure we had the upper hand at the beginning of the reset. From another point of view, after been thru so many drastic events, we are finally united and organise. We cherish this moment of unification and many player's heart are lighted up to play the game again. But i do not understand why the results of being commited was being accuse of cheating. I am Not God, and I do not know if there is any bad apples in our group, but if there is please ban him, there is no need to expand the issue further. It is a reality that there are many players from China, by ratio the numbers of cheaters is definately higher then other country. But I wish the admin can provide prove and evidence of cheating and release it together with the names of the cheater. Just simply posting a few words and the players were ban is not fair at all. But sadly this is happening now. Players are ban without any evidence of cheating annonce.

(helo says something like this)
In all honesty, I would propose a gradual increase based upon the total amount of geos in play, in which the amount that can be jeweled would increase on a weekly basis until at maximum capacity. This would be about what ? 2000 jewels? Surely noone does more than that.. I usually topped at 2k a day last round for about 2500 geos.

calculation base on 50 jewels every 15min, that will be 10hrs. This statement does not seems to blink the eye of the admin. Cheating ? I dun not know. But if someone can find 2000 jewels a day, so can a China player. So please do not ban anyone that are able to jewel 2000 jewels a day in China.

whenever WTO's funds reach a height, something misfortune will definately happen..just like hi141 says...
"whenever the China players became strong and accums a huge sum of $$$, we will be attack by a force with special and unexplain funds.
in the beginning there is Lucid Dream, then NC and now NAOW....

do u call this FAIR ??

Luke, please explain this

If you have forgotten the pass incident, I can help you to recap...."

The story nows reach the main topic, whenever WTO or what it had been called in the past reach its peak, someone will get worried and starts to restrict the advance of it. As why only WTO is the only alliance being treated this way, everybody had their own thinking. Is it fortune or misfortune, only god knows. Now i only feel tired, helpless and angry.

but we still need to face NAOW, which seems to have endless geos.

if there is anything that i posted something that should not be make suspicious on, i am sorry for that and wish you know how i am feeling now.

fair ? there is no fairness in this world

老狼，辛苦你了! ;)

Heinjail,
Right now (saturday, Sep 1st) Luke cannot answer you, because he is busy with other personal subjects. He will be back soon.
A name of a cheater was never mentioned on opened forum. Their bans happen on a daily basis. The only thing that can give you a hint that a player was banned or not is if he has a "banned" under his name. But you need to look for it.
I know this may not calm too much your thoughts now, but I hope it helps.

Maybe you misunderstand my meanings. I don't think NAOW is cheating. :)

Neither do I, although our alliance page showing every Alliance's full bank totals is kinda suspicious.

So sorry, my English is poor. I don't think using English can well express my emotion. I'm waiting for ronnielim's help. Maybe it's my last thread. All of us may be banned in the future just because we are Chinese. They don't show us anything to prove who is cheating. well, I'm tired, unhappy and a little bit angry.

You are not a victim, so do not play yourself to be one.

We know who is cheating. We cannot show all evidence, as it will be prejudicial to any further investigation.

Those that are cheating will know that we have found them because we will ban them without warning. They may or may not be chinese, as where you come from means nothing to the GEWar police. It only matters whether you are cheating or not.

He's the biggest baddest cop ever to have his finger up his nose!

Seriously, change your avatar. Look at how i pimped up mine.

Many of the players were banned suddenly with no reasons......

You are not a victim, so do not play yourself to be one.

We know who is cheating. We cannot show all evidence, as it will be prejudicial to any further investigation.

Those that are cheating will know that we have found them because we will ban them without warning. They may or may not be chinese, as where you come from means nothing to the GEWar police. It only matters whether you are cheating or not.
Yes, but you should know victims cannot come here to say what they think and to prove themselves. Yes, there are a few cheaters in our alliance. But there are also some guiltless members. ;ban

Yes, but you should know victims cannot come here to say what they think and to prove themselves. Yes, there are a few cheaters in our alliance. But there are also some guiltless members. ;ban


1. You admit that there are a few cheaters (why not give us their names?) and those are the ones that will be banned.

2. The guiltless ones have nothing to worry about.

1. You admit that there are a few cheaters (why not give us their names?) and those are the ones that will be banned.

2. The guiltless ones have nothing to worry about.
So can you give a REASON for the people why they banned?

1. You admit that there are a few cheaters (why not give us their names?) and those are the ones that will be banned.

2. The guiltless ones have nothing to worry about.
You should know under the pressure of admins, no one can do (even say) something to against them. hahato is banned because he sent armies to someone's city and they all named "UNFAIR GAME". Can I say? I should give up something to reduce loss．

So can you give a REASON for the people why they banned?

1. Duplicate Accounts.
2. Jewel Scripts

And to add to this discussion, although the focus has been on the Chinese players, in the past week, MANY non-chinese players have been banned as well for the two reasons listed above.

I remember that I sent a pm to someone about the name of Taipei. Unfortunately, he told me that if I didn't shut up, somone would ban me.

1. Duplicate Accounts.
2. Jewel Scripts

And to add to this discussion, although the focus has been on the Chinese players, in the past week, MANY non-chinese players have been banned as well for the two reasons listed above.
Maybe, but some of them are not cheaters and also maybe get banned.
Some people got banned and the reason is very very strange

Maybe, but some of them are not cheaters and also maybe get banned.
Some people got banned and the reason is very very strange

Which people are you referring to?

I remember that I sent a pm to someone about the name of Taipei. Unfortunately, he told me that if I didn't shut up, somone would ban me.


Well that wasn't me......


I am still completely undecided on Taiwan, as recently as 1 month ago I reopened all my links on that issue, and it seems everyone is still as confused. I can't get a straight answer because both sides of the debate make very valid points.

It is like Turkey saying they own half of Cyprus, it is more clear cut on that issue as Turkey is the only country that recognises the status. Cyprus is recognised as an island nation and a member of the EU on it's own.

It is a dispute.

I sided with China on the issue of Tibet, as another member wanted me to rename Lhasa, China to Lhasa, Tibet.

Taiwan appears (from my research) to be a lot more complicated and could not settle on a clear solution, so I left it.

BUT I NEVER THREATENED TO SILENCE ANYONE!

Which people are you referring to?
Like efox, he only said some Chinese bad words to Luke and immediately got banned. Maybe he is not a cheater!

Neither do I, although our alliance page showing every Alliance's full bank totals is kinda suspicious.
I respect your bravery.

I respect your bravery.

He was joking.....

We cannot see all other alliances bank details.....

Like efox, he only said some Chinese bad words to Luke and immediately got banned. Maybe he is not a cheater!

I'm not exactly sure because Luke is out of town, and according to our records, Luke was the actual person that banned him.

I am only speculating, but if efox accused him of being racist in the PM/post/email, he would have been banned for that.

Profanity can result in a mute/ban (especially at the admins).

Threatening an admin or gewar can also earn a ban.


I'm not saying that he did any of these things, but if he did, a ban is warranted.

People who are cheating get banned, the rest of you who play fair should continue to do so, don't worry about it.

Cheuk18me94 for example isn't a cheater (as far as the crew can tell) and is he banned? No. He's a respected member of GEWar.

Those who get banned did something wrong, most likely duplicate accounts, jewel scripting, or hacking.

As for efox, I do not know the reason he was banned either, but every other banned player has a good reason.