Game 51....3500 Geo`s

[Games Master]

My two boy`s aged 5 and 6 are so badly behaved, post your extreemly bad ( and legal ) punishments that i could use to shock the hell out of them. The one chosen will get the 3.5k Geo`s and any others will get a bonus payment....any parents out there get thinking, or something that happened to you as a kid...post your punishments below... ;ranting

[LuckyLuciano]

damn i got a few
if they have a type of food they hate make them think that they will have to eat in with every meal

set up a points reward system point removed for bad behavior added for good with a toy or whatever they like as a reward for being good or as a reminder that if they were good they could have this reward

pack up fave toys in a box or bag in front of them threaten to give them away if they dont behave but hold the toys captive till they do something good slowly dish them out

depending on where you live u can take them to a scary part of town threatening boarding school in that neighborhood
being sent away is scary for a kid invent a bad kid school
but make sure u mention it to them when they arent in trouble first so they believe you when they are

[helo]

Donate all of their toy's, televisions, gaming systems to the Salvation Army.

That usually has a good shock value.

but when i think about it my dad just kicked me down the stairs when i misbehaved
that worked too

I don't think that's legal. That would be considered child abuse in the States.

[LuckyLuciano]

but when i think about it my dad just kicked me down the stairs when i misbehaved
that worked too

[fluteflute]

Give them a massive suprise wedgie. Or put them in a Jock Lock (http://www.wedgiegirls.com/jocklock/index.html) .

[jem_mz]

our kids are savin up for a nintendo wii.

they argue all the time so we started taking 10p out of their money box everytime they were little ****'s.

now they are earning it back with jobs and being nice to eachother... :angel

[Grotman]

Reward them everytime they do something good, with something they like, a sweet a game a toy whatever. take one a way everytime they screw up. Oh yes, start them out with nothing next time they are naughty.

[Games Master]

Good ideas but we have tried most of these, i need something more radical... :assassin

[smirk420]

Tell them if they do it again you'll kill Santa. Get a friend in a costume and some special effects blood etc, tie him up and "torture" him in front of them. Remind them that if he dies they dont get any more presents... ever.

[Grotman]

Cruel Smirk.......I like it.

[Grotman]

Or get a bunny from the petshop and tell them it is the easter bunny and that now because of the the easter bunny is going away fron the hole it lives in, in your backyard an ther will be no more easter eggs in your house but the other hoses will still get. Then you take back the bunny and tell them a day or so later that the bunny called you and said he would bring eggs again if they behave.

[Grotman]

Or just a good old spanking. No offense but English children are naughty, atleast thats the impression I got when I was there and where I come from children are spanked and I must say it works. Just don't be too simpathetic afterwards. I know it sounds harsh.

[Grotman]

Sorry I confused you with jem zm, thought you were English

[Gen_James_Renton]

when i swear my mother rubs soap in between my teeth it works now i bearly swear or my mother says no more gewar or limits tv usage to six o clock and i have to do homework as soon as i get home twice and now im a little angel :angel :angel :angel

[Melek~Taus]

As they are young, corporal punishment may only make them worse in the future. They are a bit young to fully comprehend most forms of punishment(I think). At that age, it is a difficult decission to make. You can't send em to boot camp, or charity work. So what to do? Depending on the problem, you can always use forms of hypnosis/subliminal messages on them. Plant the idea of good in them perhaps. Along with this, reinforce why good is better with a treat system. Children are much like dogs at that age. Obedience school could work? Give them a reason to be good, and try to teach them in a way a child can understand how bad is wrong. As with any treat system, a punishment must also occur. You have to make them know what they did was wrong. Taking away toys or objects may only fuel anger. As humans touch and interaction are a must. Take those away so they are isolated for short periods. Or, take them for a walk with you when they don't want to. Tire the anger out of them.

Probably done before, but if you treat, and punish as a child would recognize it could work?

Cheers,

[Suicidal]

As they are young, corporal punishment may only make them worse in the future. They are a bit young to fully comprehend most forms of punishment(I think). At that age, it is a difficult decission to make. You can't send em to boot camp, or charity work. So what to do? Depending on the problem, you can always use forms of hypnosis/subliminal messages on them. Plant the idea of good in them perhaps. Along with this, reinforce why good is better with a treat system. Children are much like dogs at that age. Obedience school could work? Give them a reason to be good, and try to teach them in a way a child can understand how bad is wrong. As with any treat system, a punishment must also occur. You have to make them know what they did was wrong. Taking away toys or objects may only fuel anger. As humans touch and interaction are a must. Take those away so they are isolated for short periods. Or, take them for a walk with you when they don't want to. Tire the anger out of them.

Probably done before, but if you treat, and punish as a child would recognize it could work?

Cheers,
This is all very good advice.

What's needed IMHO is just a firm hand - if you tell them to do something, and tell them why they have to, then don't let up until they do it. Even if it's something small like finishing their dinner that you or their mum made for them. Stop them taking you for granted - tell them if they won't be nice to you and do waht you tell them, then you won't do them any favours either, like making food or letting them watch TV or anything. After all, it's your TV! But having said all that, remember to tell them you love them, because they'll forget!

If all else fails, and they get to 14-17 and are still badly behaved, click here (http://www.aag50.dial.pipex.com/fambratcamp.html).

[WILDCAT1976]

The thing about “extremely bad” is that its relative to the person… what may seem really bad to us as adults may not bother the kid at all…. Sooo, that begs the question, “what is extremely bad to a child?” in my opinion, that’s taking away their stuff…. But you can go extreme. Take everything out of their room but their mattress. Leave their clothes in the closet, but take away all their toys, games, everything. Then, lock it outside in a shed and they have to earn each and everything back. There really isn’t anything else you can do that’s legal--- you cant hurt them, shame them, or abuse them in any other way…. So there isn’t a good answer. The shed thing is extra mean because they can see their stuff…. But a padlock holds them back.

[Melek~Taus]

That's too much work,.....just keep everything in their room and lock "them" in the shed! :D

[Gwyndal]

Well I am assuming you have tried time outs in different areas.
My favorite was cutting the plug off the end of the tv, a week with out it worked wonders.

But you have to be consistant and not lose your temper. same punishment every time till the behaviour stops.

[aaron94]

I, personally like to ground them (Time depending on the bad thing they did)

Or try to make them go to bed earlier, that doesn't work always but it is worth a try.

Also, try to shorten the pocket money ( If that was not done before)

And if none of the above work, there is only one solution,

Call the.................
;bgrin
Supernanny

[Huxy]

Hey GM

This is so simple - I give you two options.....

1 - show them a picture of me and tell them that is what happens if you misbehave

if that doesn't have the desired effect

2 - tell them that they will have to stay with me for a weekend!!

Guaranteed to work - can't promise that nightmares will not follow their visit though! :evil :evil :evil

[WILDCAT1976]

And if none of the above work, there is only one solution,

Call the.................
;bgrin
Supernanny

This might be the winner!!! hard to argue w/the Supernanney..maybe one of the nannies from nanny911 but that's bout it

[HellCarrot]

at that ages children love to talk, have you ever tried, pretending they not there, telling them, if they are going to be naughty u not going to talk or play with them, and spend time walking around pretending they arent there. Not answering or listening or playing with them for 1/2 hour or hour. I did it to my daughter it drove her crazy, she begged me to speak or listen to her and she said she would be good, and she was for a few days
any attention is attention, weather good or bad attention. So give no attention at all.
worked with my talkative 5yr old daughter.

[jem_mz]

i agree with grotman/vou that a smack doesnt do any harm. (if the behaviour is constant).
your right, a lot of english kids are naughtly, but that goes for anywhere really. My parents didnt think twice about giving me a smack. I learnt pretty quick where the line was...
after a few warnings, if they are still doing whatever it is you've told them not to... its a firm way of affirming what you are telling them, but it doesnt work if done too often or too hard. you dont want your kids to live in fear of you.


..........but the santa idea is best! haha, genious!

[HellCarrot]

santa would work, but then you have them in your bed, because they to scared to sleep and them telling there friends you killed santa. They would be the most hated kids in school and you the most hated parent in school, due to parents not having him as a weapon no more. If u want to go with sant, tell them u have santas phone number and pretend to call, have a mate pretend to be santa on the other end so they can hear u r talking to someone. Then when they are naughty just pick up the phone and tell them you ringing santa to tell him not to bring them presents this year as they are tooo naughty.

[huner01]

@aaron94 lol, i wanted to post that :D

SUPERNANNY IS THE BEST!!.

When they are naughty they sit on the naughty stool!lol...

Just like Captain hero.(for those that watched "Drawn together") :D

...
My parents just usually torture me by taking a blackboard and scratching their nails on it or they take plates and break it on my head.

That y I r Sutch gud art Engliesh.. :D

[Gwyndal]

The rule in my house was you get spankings for anything that was dangerous. Not taking a nap doesnt count, throwing your brother off the bunk bed did.

Worked pretty well, I learned fast.

[TDINH08]

make them put on girl close in front of their friends, i bet they will never ever ever do it again.

[Chris-UK]

Your kids like football?

The red card system works well...if they misbehave, they get a yellow card...another episode of bad behaviour leads to a red card, and a suitable punishment...like a time out in the bedroom without attention / toys etc..

It works on kids who like football because it helps them to understand why you are punishing them...they associate it with football blah blah blah..

U get the idea...

:tease

[ullricm]

well, since you got two - you should use "team dynamics" - the punishment for one results in a bonus for the other one: i.e. with shortened pocket money for the one, the other one get's the same amount more.
Apart from punishing one, you get an extra punishment with the psychological effect.

You could also assign the boys specific tasks to help in your household - kids love this ;) - the punishment could then result in doing the work of the other guy.

[inpassingonce]

The idea is to punish them in a way that will shock them. We're not trying to traumatize them, or put them into a therapy spiral that will land them on a version of Oprah in 20 years.

They may be 5 or 6 but you can tell them it's time to get a job. Those little extras you buy for them. Well, it's time they earned them. They will be shocked. A little hard work will focus their wild energies, too.

After a few days of tasks, like taking out the trash, or helping a neighbor gardening to earn their allowance, maybe even opening the old fashioned lemonade stand to earn a little money, and they'll be begging to spend some quality time with you.

Many kids act out just to get attention. Even if they're bad, they want you to notice, because they want you to notice them instead of whatever game you're playing (like GEWar for example). So, give them something good they can do that will make you proud to notice them.


Inpassingonce

[Suicidal]

Yup, make sure they have a responsibility.....honestly very important!

[ghyslyn]

I have to disagree completely with Inpassingonce.

I've had a physical childhood with harsh punishments, all the way to being kicked out of hockey for hte rest of my life(i still love hockey to this day, havent played in nearly 10 years), and yet here i am working at a lumberyard while my bully friends when i was young are flipping burgers at mcdonald's(literally).

The child who thinks the timeout is the ultimate punishment, does he keep working after getting 4 stitches on a razor cut to his hand? no.
the child who got ignored by his parents everytime he was screaming and crying, is he the one who's going to lead a restaurant to being the best in town? no

people who are suicidal, people who become big p*ssies and who are ignorant followers rather then leaders, people who do not take initiatives and have no ambition, are those who were not led by example.

tolerance is not the key to punishment, this shows weakness int he parents, a soft side. the degree of the punishment is relative to the degree of the problem, im personally completely for spanking, when my kids grow up theyre gonna get it often if they behave like i did as a child.

a child is disciplined like a soldier, hard, at first they'll hate you, but they'll grow to respect you. i used to hate my father, but now i respect him more then anyone else ive ever met.

do NOT discipline by degree depending on how bad the problem is, but how disobedient it is, and how seriously wrong the child recognizes it is. a child knows what theyre not supposed to do, and disobedience to those in charge is the last thing they should think of.

do not set too many rules, but rather enforce those you do set, dont set rules of "dont watch simpsons" or "your daily limit of 1 hour of TV time has expired johnny, tommorow you can have another hour", rather educate the child on real life and how it works, do NOT lie to your child, just make em realise how harsh real life is.

real life is harsh, dont make your child think otherwise, make them understand that life is a test, something they have to pass through, and that although you wont grant that their lives will be perfect, you will still show clemency. mix discipline and compassion, show that you are a teacher AND a father. for example, say your child cuts themself while playing with your pocket knife they stole from ur drawer, explain to them what they did wrong, make them understand, physical force is always perfect for this because it FORCES them to listen, it shows them you're the boss, you're in charge, but all the same time show that you understand the pain theyre going through, help them heal the wound, even give it a little kiss. the pain a child recieves from his mistake is rarely harsh punishment enough for the mistake they've done. always send them to their room, leave them there for the rest of the night, leave them seperated from others and from socialness. because this will teach a child that if they want to socialize with others, and to be a part of life together with others and such, they must abide by the rules.

as always, dont make rules too much, you're a father, not a mother. if your son gets in a fight, first off learn if he won the fight or not, if he did, give him a little congratulations that the mother doesnt see;), but also inquire as to how the fight started, if it was a defence of his self stature and such, for example, an insult to his self and his honor, then show that u understand why he fought, this will give him the initiative in the future to nto take sh*t from people. if he was being bullied and stuff, show him to fight back without FIGHTing, beat them at their own game, to not be afraid to verbally defend themself and to outsmart their opponent.

people who blame their fathers for their lives are idiots, and the fathers are probably idiots too, you cant become expect to become more and more severe with your child because they will understand the reasons more and more. no, they wont. make your child understand it at a young age. people who become emos and antisocials, goths, and others as such didnt have rough childhoods, they did not have harsh parents, they did not get spanked and they did not get adequately punished. their parents became that way overtime. do not become worse and worse, and do not start off easy either. start off harsh, and remain as harsh, because if you dont change in how strict you are, then the child will be forced to adapt to you.

do not play a child ont heir field, make your own field and show them that if theyre not on your field, theyre not in the game. you have your rules, you have your mentality. do not teach your child normal subconscious things that most people have by setting out rules, but just by having a simple mentality about you that the child will adopt. if the child does something bad, punish them, even if they never learned it was bad, if it happens again, punish them more, this makes the child understand why what they did was bad, and the difference between good and bad.

whatever you do, do not reward your child for being bad. YOU are the boss, if you give them a sucker for them to shutup, theyll see it as you giving in, never EVER let them win. like i said before, its your field, either they play in your field, or they dont play at all. ignoring them is not a good idea, but isolating them until they smarten up is, send them to their room for the night, make em skip dinner.

a good idea is also to punish them in a way that is relative to what they did wrong, for example if ever i didnt completely finish waht was on my plate at supper, they would put it down my pants(literally, mac and cheese was the worst), then i would have my cry-spout, then they would take my pants off, id clean myself a bit and id get fresh pants. whenever i swore to a certain extent, i wouldnt get soap between my teeth, i wouldnt have to eat asparagus, my dad picked me up, brought me to the laundry room, took a crappy bar of soap, forced my mouth open, pulled my tongue out(and kept a good grip on it) and started scrubbing my tongue hard. the lasting flavour will serve as a reminder that what i did was wrong, and that i got punished for it.

the second time they do something is not better then the first time, but its not worst either, well it is in a way, the first time you punish them because its something wrong, the second time you punish them because by now they should know better.

let your kids make mistakes, let yours kids adventure, and please oh please if you havent already, move to the country. let your kids eat bugs, let your kids step in cow dung, let em build forts int he middle of the forest, only to see their work crumble down. do not overtreat your kids, make them make their own games, a child will have more fun playing tag in the woods with his friends, or playing "la guerre de la neige", snowball fights, then they will playing with their powerpuff girl toys or their video games. construction, destruction, invention, anything that makes the child think and work, will be carried-on to their adulthood as skills, organization, leadership. all of this. the best leader is the one who's not afraid to express themselves, continuously. toys and such, will grow into nothing, it might educate the child but it wont teach them how to be.

sure you know waht the capital of mongolia is, and you can read shakespeare easily, but can you take a nailgun through your hand without crying?(this is a question to kids who grow up)

the main thing kids arent learning nowadays is to suck it up, they need to know life is harsh, and that they need to create their own path, and that nothing in their path will be created for them, all of it will depend on who they are, and what theyve become from your teachings.

[got_crabs]

Tell them if they do it again you'll kill Santa. Get a friend in a costume and some special effects blood etc, tie him up and "torture" him in front of them. Remind them that if he dies they dont get any more presents... ever.

That's funny, my dad killed the easter bunny.

[Games Master]

All good answers but for sheer volume of reply im awarding ghyslyn the winner...thanks to all of ya !!! :D

[Fear4Future]

Well, you could hide away all their clothes in a box untill they behave and chase them out of the house for the day, but that would be illegal, and disturbing, so neva mind that.. That's just weird

I know.. If they have any pets, put them up for adoption unless they behave.. That would be cruel enough for any child to behave.

Drop them off at the school bully's house if they don't behave, and this way scare them into being good!!

* If only one of the above bright ideas are allowed to count, take the last 1!! :commando

[Fear4Future]

Ah, I'm just too late, or when did this end?

[Fear4Future]

This ended while I was busy thinking ;ranting

Ah well, would've lost anyway!! Makes no difference!!

[Fear4Future]

Do I get geos for good spirit??? ;clap

[wayaya]

My two boy`s aged 5 and 6 are so badly behaved, post your extreemly bad ( and legal ) punishments that i could use to shock the hell out of them. The one chosen will get the 3.5k Geo`s and any others will get a bonus payment....any parents out there get thinking, or something that happened to you as a kid...post your punishments below... ;ranting
1.Draw a circle on the floor,and ask the bad boy to stay inside the circle for,let's say,10 minutes.
2.Stand closely to the wall/corner and face the wall,not allowed to move,speak,turn head or make any action.

[WILDCAT1976]

All good answers but for sheer volume of reply im awarding ghyslyn the winner...thanks to all of ya !!! :D

BOOO..lol...

my answer came from someone who has a masters degree in early childhood development....lmao

[ghyslyn]

and my answer took me a long time to type, so poop on you

[WILDCAT1976]

and my answer took me a long time to type, so poop on you

true, you did spend much more time on this....kudos...3500 that's a nice chunck...enjoy!!!!

[ghyslyn]

thanks WC, will do, itll help pay for childhood therapists that i had to get over the years from physical abuse by my rents, lol just kidding.

[sam100255]

say to your kids that your going somewhere that day(theme park zoo etc)
then when you can see signs for the place say something like


Because you were naughty were going home now


then go home

[LWF]

Well, this is too late, but my parents would "call" Santa-Claus and start saying we were being bad. That really shut us up. We would be scared stiff because we thought we wouldn't get presents.

[ghyslyn]

Well, this is too late, but my parents would "call" Santa-Claus and start saying we were being bad. That really shut us up. We would be scared stiff because we thought we wouldn't get presents.


that never worked on me, cause my presents were crap anyway:P

YAY! i 2$ yo-yo!

[got_crabs]

You could try and pit the boys against one another, let the fate of the one to be punished be decided by the other. Either they'll love it and be totally ruthless to one another, or they'll hate it and try not to put each other in that position. Either way, they ought to learn something from the deal.

[CaymanIslands]

tell them if they dont behave they will get a visit from THE APPO the unknown always scares

[Games Master]

Dont bring your eyes !!!!