Madeleine McCann is 4, she went missing whilst on holiday in Portugal with her family. The evidence points to her having been abducted, this story has become an international news item and many TV Networks are running constant updates on hers and her famillies plight.

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Please take the time to read hers and her famillies story (http://www.findmadeleine.com/) and if you can help in anyway contact the relevant authorities immediately.

Its pretty dumb of her parents to leave her unattended in the middle of the night in a hotel room while they went out for dinner. At least call for a babysitter or something. Well I hope she is found but many of these cases can be directly blamed on the parents..

I agree, I read up on this a long time ago. Back when I heard a 3 million reward was out from JK Rowling. I felt bad and still do about it. I do have the same concerns you do. What parents do that? She could have left of her own free will not knowing where her parents were, or anyone with a hotel card/key can get in if they were interested in the girl(and there are those out there!). I hope they find her and hope nothing of detriment occurs(for her sake).

Parents are going to be formally charged soon?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/07/nmaddy407.xml

I think the Portguese police are grasping at straws...

They have no clue, and hence making everyone remotely connected a suspect.

"According to the media"* they have forensic evidence of Madeleines blood in a rental car that was hired nearly a month after her disappearance. Pretty damning if it's true...

*I only believe 1/10th of what I read/hear from the media.

I've always found their trip around the world for help a bit suspicious.

What's it called when you get your kid sick for attention? munchhauser?

This would be it at a grander scale.

I've always found their trip around the world for help a bit suspicious.

What's it called when you get your kid sick for attention? munchhauser?

This would be it at a grander scale.


Close...

Munchausen Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_syndrome)

I agree, i think the parents have much more to do with this than we know.

I really hope that it proves to be wrong, I cannot understand how a car that is hired 25 days later can contain blood of a child that has been missing for that long. Its weird. I hope Jaz is correct and they are just looking for an excuse to pin the blame somewhere.

I think they must be looking at some pretty solid evidence to go and accuse the parents. Not a really popular thing to do, even in portugal i'd imagen.

I agree Tim, I honestly do, just cannot believe any parent would want to hurt their child, but I know that is just being naive because obviously it happens. Just absolutely heartbreaking if its true. But equally the fact they left their children in an apartment alone with the doors unlocked does not help their cause either in my honest opinion.

I think they must be looking at some pretty solid evidence to go and accuse the parents. Not a really popular thing to do, even in portugal i'd imagen.

Yep, we are nothing but a bunch of savages...

The father is being interrogated has we speak, the mother was interrogated too, and is now undr police surveilance in her hotel..
They myst have hard evidencesd to do that..

Yes they must Foskasse and Tim didnt mean anything funny by that comment. Its very scary to think that her parents may have played a part in her disappearance, I just cannot believe they would stick it out in Portugal if they were guilty. I don't know maybe I am putting too much faith in her parents, I really hope it is proved it was not them. If however it is proven to be them then they should be hin drawn and quartered and where is this kiddie, is she dead?

Two words...

Susan Smith

It's not like it isn't a new thing.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith)

Portugese police and incompetent.

Policing standards around the world vary. For example, the Bob Woolmer case ...Jamaica said he was murdered, UK police said he died of natural causes.

The problem for this case is that the body...

No witness'.

Probably not enough evidence to prosecute the parents either. (From what we officially know).

Two words...

Susan Smith

It's not like it isn't a new thing....


Two more words...

Lindy Chamberlain

Very confusing tale that one.

Only to the youngins... :p

I remember that one. The infamous "dingo ate your baby."
Man I'm old?

Was Madeline spotted in Morocco in late August???

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/26/world/main3298799.shtml

What I still find incredulous in all of this is the fact that 2 completely different and random witnesses claimed to have seen Madeline at a Petrol Station on the 9th May. Yet the Portugese police still continued down the road of her parents being responsible. I have felt for a while that they were just trying to claw back the tourism they felt they had lost because of this disappearance. I hope if it does eventually prove that Madeline was infact abducted then the police are hauled over the coals for wasting time which is obviously so precious.

They say that Morocco is a world known mecca for paedophiles and child sex trafficking, I do not know whether this is true or not, but this is not the first supposed sighting of Madeline in Morroco and I really hope now the focus will again turn back to this poor child and away from her parents.

If her parents are found guilty, which at this point I find highly unlikely then they should be banged up and the key thrown away. But right now I think the emphasis has again got to be put on finding this child whether dead or alive.

I think the police have no idea and are just clutching at straws because of the massive pressure the media have put on them.

News here stated the girl on the photo in Morocco is found, and is not Madeleine at all. Just a Moroccan girl.
Really...have her picture sent all over the world and someone is bound to 'see' her in every country. I don't believe she is alive anymore.

Your right Luke its broken on the new here as well. Here is a link (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1285900,00.html) for the news article and a copy of the interview with a reporter who has been and actually confirmed this child is not her.

Interesting fact however is that the Police have not been to this part of Morocco to confirm identity at all, makes you wonder what the hell they are actually doing?

Interesting fact however is that the Police have not been to this part of Morocco to confirm identity at all, makes you wonder what the hell they are actually doing?

I don't think the police really believed it. It's in the media becaue of the whole Madeleine media circus.
I still think it's suspicious that the parents 'fled' Portugal after being a possible suspect, while they said before they would stay until they found her.
I'm very sorry if they are innocent, but the explanation of suddenly(1 day after the accusation) going back for having to take care of the other children doesn't make that much sense. Why didn't they just say went back because they couldn't stand it anymore being accused of such a thing(you know...mental state after child dissapearing and now having to deal with that). Would've sounded more honest.

Well as far as I was aware they had already stated previously they would be returning to the UK, as their lease at the cirrent apartment was due to run out and they had nowhere else to go, so had decided to come back to the UK. It just happened a few days sooner than they had initially planned, but the whole thing just blew up and I believe it brought their decision forward a little, but their lease was die to run out the week after they left Portugal.

I don't know whether as a mum I do not want to believe any parent could be responsible for the death of their child whether it be intentional or accidental. I know obviously it happens, but this case just does not sit comfortable with me, I hope I am never proven wrong, but I really do not believe they played a part in their childs death.

The Portugese police have placed much emphasis on Kates diaries as they state she struggled with the children at times and Madeline was supposedly a handful as a child. But any parent whether they have 1 or 3 children will tell you we all struggle at times, there are days that nothing goes right and the kids just seem to be having a lets see how far we can push mum and dad day. No parent is perfect, if we were, we would never get irritated, we would always have more patience than a saint, and we would never raise our voices to our kids. In a real world it doesn't happen, and I think using that as a tool against Kate, is really just clutching at straws.

I think the Portugese police and government really want the issue put to bed and dealt with once and for all and are hoping for a kind of get out clause, which in a way is understandable, although not at the possible expense of a childs life. To be fair if I were choosing to go on holiday I would probably pick precisely that resort, not because I want my child abducted, but because of the police attention surrounding the place, who in their right mind would harm let alone abduct a child from there now. Its possibly one of the safest places to take your kids right now.

I really do not believe they played a part in their childs death.

Sorry, gotta disagree there. They left a 4 year old child alone in a hotel room to go have dinner. That's child endangerment at a minimum in the US.

Sorry, gotta disagree there. They left a 4 year old child alone in a hotel room to go have dinner. That's child endangerment at a minimum in the US.

Bob I do not disagree I stated as much in my opening post I am certain, but you and I would never have done that with our kids, but their friends are as guilty because they all did the same. Personally I would never leave my child home alone, let alone in an apartment on holiday. Infact I never settle unless she is sleeping in the same room as us, you can never be too careful in a holiday apartment. Also whenever she goes to the holiday clubs, if they have an outdoor play area, I always sit across from the place and take a book and wait for her until her hour is up. But that is me. Even so that still is not proof enough to say they are capableof killing their child, their is a distinct difference between both scenario's. I do not say it is correct what they did with their child, but the fact still remains this alone does not make them killers.

but that alone makes it look very suspicious
I am a private investigator in Vancouver, I get missing children cases all the time
but if I had to guess I would say that they are guilty of neglect in the very least
I wouldnt touch this case with a ten foot pole or lukes nose whichever happens to be bigger at the time.
I am also a parent of a beautiful little girl
so I do sympathize with the parents a little

I wouldnt touch this case with a ten foot pole or lukes nose whichever happens to be bigger at the time.


Mine is already bigger when I'm NOT lying....

Mine is already bigger when I'm NOT lying....
Oooh, I sense a lack of self-esteem! Didn't your mum tell you you were pretty? :sealed

**** My mom says your pretty all the time luke
am I right?

What does that have to do with self esteem?

It took some pretty expensive surgery to make my nose this big. I like big :confused: .

Or perhaps you weren't talking about my nose but Suicidals? As you just said 'Luke'.

haha
nice you know what they say about guys with big noses?
Luke didn't you start that rumor?

nice you know what they say about guys with big noses?


Yeah....step back(and duck) when I sneeze....

Or perhaps you weren't talking about my nose but Suicidals? As you just said 'Luke'.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH A BIG NOSE!!!!

AAARRRRRGH!!!

Why do you always pick on me Luke!?!?!?!?!? *slits wrists*

:swoon2

Back on-topic kinda...

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Thats a brilliant idea, why they cannot do that in the UK goodness knows, maybe its for the same reasons we are not allowed to know if we have a paedophile living near us, after all in the UK you must protect the criminal more than the victim.

This is so sad. I have her as my top friend on MySpace. You can see here Official MySpace Page on my MySpace Page at WWW.MYSPACE.COM/NYDEUCESFILM. She is my number 1 friend.
Madeleine McCann is 4, she went missing whilst on holiday in Portugal with her family. The evidence points to her having been abducted, this story has become an international news item and many TV Networks are running constant updates on hers and her famillies plight.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p260/princesssunshine_photo/1534415.jpg

Please take the time to read hers and her famillies story (http://www.findmadeleine.com/) and if you can help in anyway contact the relevant authorities immediately.

This is so sad. I have her as my top friend on MySpace. You can see here Official MySpace Page on my MySpace Page at WWW.MYSPACE.COM/NYDEUCESFILM (http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/NYDEUCESFILM). She is my number 1 friend.

Wow, thank the gods they have you.

Wow, thank the gods they have you.

You are so slack man!

But that's just my opinion

did you know that before the detectives could get a judge to give them permission to get hold of the laptop and diary from her parents they submitted a 4000-5000 page report with evidence, so they must have a lot of evidence against the parents as it is, never mind the laptop and diary

Thats a brilliant idea, why they cannot do that in the UK goodness knows, maybe its for the same reasons we are not allowed to know if we have a paedophile living near us, after all in the UK you must protect the criminal more than the victim.

Maybe even if you are/were a criminal, you still a person and you have the right to your privacy..

everyone has a constitutional right, except south africans,lol

It deppens when were you live of course. But everyone should hve their privacy protected by law.

well on the news 2nyt on tv every political party is now standing up against the main political party as news was released that the president may have suspended a particular person in parliment to protect som1 else as they had an arrest warrent for someone else

well on the news 2nyt on tv every political party is now standing up against the main political party as news was released that the president may have suspended a particular person in parliment to protect som1 else as they had an arrest warrent for someone else

? what? Wich parlamient of what country..

Maybe even if you are/were a criminal, you still a person and you have the right to your privacy..

Yes I agree you do, but when you rape, sexually assault a person or commit any type of crime aimed at hurting a person physically then I believe you waive that right.

I have a right as a responsible and loving parent to protect my child and I think that right fair outweighs that of a paedophile.

Yes I agree you do, but when you rape, sexually assault a person or commit any type of crime aimed at hurting a person physically then I believe you waive that right.

I have a right as a responsible and loving parent to protect my child and I think that right fair outweighs that of a paedophile.

I dont think it does.

If that person, paedophile or whatever, now lives as a free man, is cause he paid is debt to society by spending an amount of time with his freedom taken away from him. thats how our sistem works. If he is released, why does he have to continue to have his freedom and privacy caged?
What was the meaning of he spending years in a prison, if when he gets out, he still will be monitorized by authorities, he will have a ward job trying to find work, cause no one wants a paedophile working for them, and no landlord wants to rent a apartment to one too...
So, you ~might as well change the penalty of this tipe f crime to a life sentence, cause if what you say were true, they would suffer a judgement from sociiety for the rest of theyr lives..

I dont think it does.

If that person, paedophile or whatever, now lives as a free man, is cause he paid is debt to society by spending an amount of time with his freedom taken away from him. thats how our sistem works. If he is released, why does he have to continue to have his freedom and privacy caged?
What was the meaning of he spending years in a prison, if when he gets out, he still will be monitorized by authorities, he will have a ward job trying to find work, cause no one wants a paedophile working for them, and no landlord wants to rent a apartment to one too...
So, you ~might as well change the penalty of this tipe f crime to a life sentence, cause if what you say were true, they would suffer a judgement from sociiety for the rest of theyr lives..

Maybe so but they do not deserve to live in anonymity Foskasse, they are a danger to our society and more importantly our children, majority of Paedophiles can never be rehabilitated, it is a proven fact that many reoffend. Imagine the victim of this crime for one moment Foskasse, they have to live for the rest of their lives with the fact they were abused, it will be a memory and emotion they will never ever get rid of, is that not still a life sentence for the victim instead???

Maybe so but they do not deserve to live in anonymity Foskasse, they are a danger to our society and more importantly our children, majority of Paedophiles can never be rehabilitated, it is a proven fact that many reoffend. Imagine the victim of this crime for one moment Foskasse, they have to live for the rest of their lives with the fact they were abused, it will be a memory and emotion they will never ever get rid of, is that not still a life sentence for the victim instead???

Yes, it is. but you cannot make a law based on that, and based on the reincidence thing.
Imagine a victim of a car crash. He would have scars for live, and its also a proven fact, that a person that is caught driving with alcohool will probably do it again.
They become menaces, shall we give them the same treatment?

But the main question is that they are not any less humams than me. And I defend the right to privacy.. And in this case it means the survivel of the paedophiles.. What chances of reabilitation would they have without a job or a house. And some have families, how would a person sustain his family..
I know it may be a hard thing to ask for a father, I am not one, but you must understand that the security of your children cannot end the life of several persons.. And it cant be put in front of another humans beings. Cause you cant prove for fact, that your children, or anybodys children will be attacked by one of thoes guys..