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ronnielim 02-15-2007, 07:25 AM 各位好。。
老狼被选为这里的翻译员, 目的是帮助那些英语不通的华裔同胞。
如果大家有什么疑问或提议, 可以在此发表。。。。 我会紧我所能帮助大家~
hi,
chinese players that are not well verse in English can use this thread to post their questions and concern.
I will try my best to help
打倒帝国主义~~~~~~
down with capitaliazation~~~~~
ronnielim 02-15-2007, 09:01 AM 打倒帝国主义~~~~~~
打你个屁~~ 别搞乱~~ :beat
down your ***~~ dun fool around here~~ :beat
knight02 02-15-2007, 04:10 PM 老狼开坛作法,先恭喜下!问题很多~等想好了再说 ;icoffee
congrats to you~! there are alot of questions, let me starts thinging and i will post it
rence 02-15-2007, 04:11 PM 提议luke弄个中文网页吧 :cheesy
i sugguest Luke starts a chinese forum
hi141 02-15-2007, 04:44 PM 我会通知其他人来的,不过,老狼,你会很辛苦
I will inform the others, but you will have to work very hard
ronnielim 02-15-2007, 05:10 PM 非法赚钱的人会被封杀。。。这些留给GEWAR的公安去处理。
请不要抱着这种心态来看待其他盟。。。当TIGER 和ODA 称霸时,他们也是这样怀疑你们的。但其实都是无稽之谈。
我保证管理员是公正的。。
141... 多谢了。。。
rence。。。不可能, 其他人也会效仿。。。那就大乱了
pls do not jump into conclusion that the others are cheating, the GEwar policeman will take care of it.
The others had doubts on the ODA and Tigers before when they are Top of the alliances, it is natural that the others thing that ones cheat to get to the top but that is always not the case.
All the mods and police here are fair and dun take sides.
141... thanks...
rence... it is not possible to start a chinese forum... it is not fair to the other nations that dun speak English as their 1st language too....
First: I think Dan meant that he only sees question marks? Probably because he hasn't installed Chinese language pack.
Can you translate this Ronnielim:
First we have to get rid of is the world VS Chinese and the Chinese VS the World.
It is hard to do because of the language barrier.
首先我们必须解除其他盟和华盟对立的现象, 但因为语言上的沟通,这是很难办到的。
At the moment we are in a loop because the world thinks Chinese are mainly cheating, and the Chinese think that about the rest and about the mods.
The problem with last time is that because of the language barrier, they never read the thread about the multi-alliance posting in the forums how they are 'crushing' ODA.
目前我们进入了一个瓶颈, 其他盟都认为华盟作弊。 而华盟也有同感,还以为其他盟得到管理员的包庇。
也许因为语言的问题,华盟没上论坛或没看到其他盟在论坛里下了英雄帖讨伐ODA。
Perhaps because of that, it came out of the blue for the Chinese, who couldn't believe why and how this was happening.
也许正因为如此,华盟无法接受这突如其来的事变。
Otherwise the rest of the world keeps reading on gewar and in the news about other games that Chinese even pay other people to play for them and so on...and that frustrates them. So the breach between Chinese and the rest becomes bigger and we need to find some way of bringing those 2 more together.
其他盟也从别的管道听说华盟以雇用的方法来玩这游戏, 这使到他们很浮躁。所有两家的误会也越来越多, 因此我们必须找个法子来让两家误会冰解,好好玩这游戏。
If there is some kind of hack for vbulletin that translates chinese to english I would've installed it already :p.
如果有这么一个能把华文翻译成英文的论坛, 我一定会安装的:P
I'd just like to apologise to the Chinese who may have read some of my posts and thought I was anti-ODA. I'm anti-non-fighting and unequalness.
But I DO trust ODA and TIGERS, more than the others (western) who use the ODA strategy. This is mainly because ODA does not "interfere".
我向所有的华族道歉,也许你们从论坛里认为我是个敌视ODA的人,但我不是。 我是个反停战和反不平等的。
但我相信和信任ODA 和TIGERS多过其他西方盟所用的策略。 那是因为ODA从不从中干涩
Schlunz 02-16-2007, 12:17 AM I don't see why A&O, 3rd Army, BNW jumped onto the bandwagon of attacking ODA...sounds like a bullying tactic to me rather than an equal battle.
Huh? Jaz, where did you see 3rd army ever attacking ODA? If i remember correct they were attacking TIGER. And where did you ever see BNW attacking ODA? All i see is AO is attacking ODA. And this seems to be a pretty equal battle dont you think? We re not bullying anyone just because we re attacking them, or am i wrong here?. Hell, all we have is a nice fight in a wargame ;box
But back to topic Luke is right in what he says, there are many people out there who think the Chinese are cheating or were cheating. But no one can disuss such things with them and clarify the problems. Its only possible to send very "easy" sentences which they can translate and vice versa. That is and possibly ever will be a problem. At least i dont see how this understanding problem can be easily solved... but it would be nice if anyone finds a way.
Huh? Jaz, where did you see 3rd army ever attacking ODA? If i remember correct they were attacking TIGER. And where did you ever see BNW attacking ODA? All i see is AO is attacking ODA. And this seems to be a pretty equal battle dont you think? We re not bullying anyone just because we re attacking them, or am i wrong here?. Hell, all we have is a nice fight in a wargame ;box
But back to topic Luke is right in what he says, there are many people out there who think the Chinese are cheating or were cheating. But no one can disuss such things with them and clarify the problems. Its only possible to send very "easy" sentences which they can translate and vice versa. That is and possibly ever will be a problem. At least i dont see how this understanding problem can be easily solved... but it would be nice if anyone finds a way.
I've heard about funding from BNW.
Plus China does not look pink to me......i'd say alot of alliances "jumped on the bandwagon"
Schlunz 02-16-2007, 01:12 AM There are many things people hear in GEwar, right? Are they all true? Are they not? Dont believe anything you hear. Maybe thats also one reason for the Chinese vs the rest barrier. Only because people "hear" too many things and start to believe them...?
And yes of course many players jumped onto the bandwaggon by occupying cities we left. But thats not our fault. ODA can take them back if they want to. All we did was attacking them, thats all. We didnt plan any city swaps neither did we sell them to anyone... so how can you call us bullying anyone? Well if that is what you call bullying others than i think GEwar should shut down immediately ;)
This is a game and we should all PLAY it together, no matter if its Chinese, US, Europe or whatever... and we should always remember its just a game even if we attack each other. Sometimes i have a feeling that there are many players who take this whole thing a little too serious.
So lets get back to the topic here. And that was about breaking down the barriers between chinese and other players and not heating up the whole thing by saying chinese are bullied by others which simply isnt true in your example. ;drunk
Generic42 02-16-2007, 02:20 AM So lets get back to the topic here. And that was about breaking down the barriers between chinese and other players and not heating up the whole thing by saying chinese are bullied by others which simply isnt true in your example. ;drunkBetter words are rarely spoken, just let it go jaz, BNW funded no one unless it was kept secret even form it's members.
Now, back on topic
MOVED TO OUR NEW INTERNATIONAL SUPORT FORUM :)
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zly666 02-16-2007, 04:23 AM 作为ODA的领导人,我首先感谢ronnielim的努力,大家都知道,近几个月,中国地区上线人数大大下 降,原因是由于地震对网络造成的影响,中国地区在去年12月份几乎不能登陆GEWAR,这使很多人不能继续 游戏,也失去了兴趣,因此,上线人数锐减. :rock
中国玩家对于这个游戏的理解可能和其他玩家不同,一开始,我们所希望的,只不过是想以主人的资态保卫中国的 城市,当然,我们现在正在不断地融合到全世界的玩家中去,我看到,从去年下半年以来,中国玩家对外界的接触 渐渐频繁,这也是我努力的,我希望能通过这个游戏,介绍更多的中国玩家给全世界的朋友们,我希望,我们的友 谊不单单是建立在游戏中,也应该在游戏之上,有着关于电脑知识.网络技术等等其他的共同爱好,拉近世界的距 离,这也是ODA组建时的想法,那个时候,我们有专门的人员在做这样的事,虽然他们现在很多已经离开游戏, 但我依然怀念他们. :'(
对于GEWAR,在这一年多来,我尝试过不同的角色(当然不是说我有其他的ID),从一开始的游击队员,到 股市投资者,资金管理员,新手训练者,区域协调员,再到联盟领导人,我感觉,每一个角色都让我很有所得,这 也要感谢ODA以及其他中国联盟玩家的支持.GEWAR的运行,已经持续了一年多了,尝试过这个游戏的人, 已经有上万人,但是,真正能够坚持的人并不多,这或许能给我们更多的思考,特别是游戏开发商和管理员,我们 似乎应该想一些更好的办法来提高大家的兴趣,LUKE之前也有过这样的尝试,让这个游戏的目的,从战胜变为 战斗,我也看到了许多玩家在这方面的努力,这或许也是上一轮AO的领导人dic101发PM给我,说在游戏 结束前取消NAP,进行随意攻击的原因.我想,这个游戏可能在感官上(视觉.听觉),或者在网络的速度上, 使他不能吸引更多的玩家的参与,我也不知道,这个能不能有更多的改进. ;icoffee
最后,我重申一点,ODA的所有成员,希望能和全世界其他加强交流.也希望有更多的玩家,象ronniel im一样,能为大家的交流作出贡献!所以,上面这些文字,还是请ronnielim翻译一下. ;woop
being the leader of ODA, i would like to thank ronnielim :p . we all know that for the past few months, many chinese players are not able to login to GEWAR due to the earthquack that broke down the cables at Asia. And thus, many chinese players had lost their interest in the game after leaving for so long.
Chinese players may have a different understanding of this game. In the beginning, we only wanted to play host and hold the China cities, but of coz now we are moving towards other regions and try to mix around with other players. As i can see, from Middle of last year chinese players communicating with the other nationals are getting more frequent. This is what we are trying to and hope for and wish that thru this game we can introduce more chinese friends to other players of different countries. we also hope that we not only build up our friendship thru this game but also thru other ways such as sharing of technical knowledge be it computer or the internet. ODA is build base on the above moral and we have few players that are trying hard to achieve that goal, but too bad many had left.
For the past 1 year, i had try to play in different roles, from a assualt member to a shares investor...a fund keeper....noobs trainer...regional dipolmat and now an alliance leader. I felt that i had enjoy alot and wish to thanks ODA and other chinese alliance for their support and making GEWAR fun. Till date, i believe thousands of people had played this game but only a minor fraction stay on. We should be brainstorming on this issue to increase the interests and fun factor in this game to keep these players from leaving. Luke had tried some changes, eg. changing from winning the war to winning the battle in order to be top of the game and had seen many players trying to follow that trend.
But this game still lacks some stuffs like sound and visual effects, and also the speed of the server. I wonder can this be improve and may in a way attract more players to stay.
last, i wish to emphasize that all ODA members wish to strenghten the ties with other players from all other parts of the world. And more players could come out and contribute their services to make it happen especially for those that does not have good english backgrounds.
knight02 02-16-2007, 08:13 AM 我们在努力争取更多的中国玩家留在游戏,在试图消除他们游戏的误解,这需要时间和精力,虽然很艰难~但是O DA仍然会做出努力,Ronnielim的这篇帖子将是良好的开端,希望能发挥更大的作用,也许可以给所有 中国地区IP登入的玩家都发一个这个论坛的地址,让他们有沟通的渠道,还是麻烦死狼翻译下! ;beer
we are trying our best to retain more chinese players, and try to clear all their misunderstanding and doubts about the game. This will need time and efforts, though it is hard to achieve, ODA will try their best. This Thread is a good beginning and hope that be of great use.
i sugguest giving all players with china's IP the address of this thread and let them had a clear channel to communicate.
jinchf_sxzjcn 02-17-2007, 12:02 PM All Chinese players are celebrating the Chinese New Year festive seasons now~~!!!! Chinese that are aboard will be celebrating together too with their counterparts in China. I hereby invite all players(allies or enemies) come and join us in this joyful event.
Being a Chinese player, I hope this is always a fair game and trust the MODS and Admins will uphold this.
Thanking RO for doing this thread
现在许多中国玩家在欢度中国的春节,许多华人也在世界各地一起欢度这个节日.大家可以从各个地
方听到这个消息。无论我的敌人或者我的朋友们,中国新年快乐!!!
作为一个中国玩家,我们希望能加日一个公平的游戏,无论你的想法是对是错,我相信GM能给我们一个公正的结 果,我信任这一点。
谢谢RO为此所做的
Sunshine31 02-17-2007, 01:47 PM i sugguest giving all players with china's IP the address of this thread and let them had a clear channel to communicate.
This is a very good idea and when we notice a player come through on an IP from China we will forward this link to them.
zly666 02-23-2007, 08:06 AM 是个好主意,不过,谁来完成?
jammo 02-23-2007, 11:51 PM 是个好主意,不过,谁来完成?
It will be one of the Crew that will try and assist with this task.
它将是将尝试和将协助这项任务的一个乘员组
(i hope that came out right :p )
ronnielim 02-24-2007, 04:27 PM It will be one of the Crew that will try and assist with this task.
它将是将尝试和将协助这项任务的一个乘员组
(i hope that came out right :p )
sorry jammo but the chinese sentence really mean nothing at all...
below is the correct one...hehe
管理员会负责此任务
we can see how different it was using a translator...
THEOtheGREAT 02-25-2007, 12:45 PM 希腊规则
comme on that s chinese but what does it mean...???
ronnielim 02-25-2007, 02:44 PM 希腊规则
comme on that s chinese but what does it mean...???
it says Greek's laws...
I believe you wanted to say Greeks Rules...
so now u know whats the different...
BigBang 02-25-2007, 03:13 PM Thanks ronnie, to help build the bridge for all the Chinese players who are not fluent with English to the wonderful game.
It will be one of the Crew that will try and assist with this task.
它将是将尝试和将协助这项任务的一个乘员组
(i hope that came out right :p )
are you use worldlingo to translate ?
zly666 02-27-2007, 02:43 AM 管理员可考虑加个讲汉语的.
ronnielim 02-28-2007, 11:42 AM - 在任何情况下,挖宝不受限制
- 无城也没有2500g 的限制
- 无城也可以汇款
- 可以进入会员论坛
- 可以进入会员测试游戏,只有会员能进入, 测试新的游戏功能
- 自己的名号
- 能储存2000个PM
- 矿场将出现白圈 (http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6483/cottonb9pv.jpg), 让你能看到无法开新矿的地带,使你能更顺利的排好和开好矿
- 天灾来临时的提前警告
- 部队是坦克而不是帐篷
- 能看看其他玩家的战斗质料, 如基地被攻或其部队在城外被袭击。让你能更了解敌人的战斗力
- 自己user signatures
zly666 02-28-2007, 02:12 PM - 在任何情况下,挖宝不受数量限制,每天能挖到50个以上
- 无城也没有2500g 的资金限制,照样有利息和矿产收入
- 无城也可以汇款
- 可以进入会员论坛
- 可以进入会员测试游戏,只有会员能进入, 测试新的游戏功能
- 可以更改自己的别名
- 能储存2000个PM消息
- 矿场将出现白圈 (http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6483/cottonb9pv.jpg), 让你能看到无法开新矿的地带,使你能更顺利的排好和开好矿
- 天灾来临时的提前警告(我还没用到过)
- 部队是坦克而不是帐篷
- 能看看其他玩家的战斗记录, 如该玩家基地被攻或其部队在城外被袭击。让你能更了解敌人的战斗力
- 用户署名
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ronnielim 03-02-2007, 03:07 PM :D 天灾是核罩消失么?
不是。。。天灾只有在会员游戏里才有。。。如台风,地震。天灾将使守城兵数减少。 你可以在天灾来之前买个天灾保险,就像核照一样,但不是永久的。
knight02 03-04-2007, 03:56 PM 强烈抗议修改攻防记录文字,加入广告可以理解,修改防记录文字实在没必要,给非英语母语的又造成更大困难, 根本不知道打下没打下。。。
strongly disagree with the change in the battle history, the Ads is OK but the change in the battle text had given those that are week in english a great disadvantage as they dun know whether had they taken the city.
ronnielim 03-06-2007, 02:47 PM 强烈抗议修改攻防记录文字,加入广告可以理解,修改防记录文字实在没必要,给非英语母语的又造成更大困难, 根本不知道打下没打下。。。
strongly disagree with the change in the battle history, the Ads is OK but the change in the battle text had given those that are week in english a great disadvantage as they dun know whether had they taken the city.
我相信这是为了防止他人利用脚本来收集敌人质料。如果战斗历史太过规划(如以前的),他人很容易用脚本来得 到质料。
战斗历史已经加入(city occupied = 城被占领)和(city unoccupied = 城没被占领)
但我发现管理员已经换回了旧的战斗历史记录方式, 除了占空城和弃城外。
I believe the change in the history text is to prevent others from using scripts to collect data of other user's expenses.
the history had added (city occupied) and (city unoccupied).
But i just found out that the history had change back to the old format except for taking over unowned cities and abadoning cities.
strongly disagree with the change in the battle history, the Ads is OK but the change in the battle text had given those that are week in english a great disadvantage as they dun know whether had they taken the city.
knight02, do you see a lot of different ads or only a few?
To my knowledge there are only 5 to 6 different advertisements that the Chinese see.
ronnielim, thank you if you could translate this for me :)
ronnielim 03-06-2007, 03:34 PM knight02, do you see a lot of different ads or only a few?
To my knowledge there are only 5 to 6 different advertisements that the Chinese see.
ronnielim, thank you if you could translate this for me :)
he means the history text and not the Ads..... you got it wrong.
no translations needed here
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:34 AM 中国玩家确实需要与其他联盟进行相互的沟通,以避免因为误解而导致的不愉快。语言的交流障碍是一个方面,文 化传统所导致的思维方式的差异,比前者更容易引起误解。
这几天,在于曾经的对手的交流中,整理了一下思路。从我个人的认识角度,将中国玩家的情况相对客观的介绍一 下。
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:35 AM 1).首先介绍一下以前的中国gewar 的历史背景,也就是与GDI 冲突的那段往事。 因为现在中国各个联盟的领导团队都是从哪个时期来的,当时产生的一些对gewar 的认识,至今还影响着整个中国玩家。
1) 1st of all, let me refresh some historical moments of GEwar on the China players. It all started with the GDI conflicts. Those moments still affect most of the chinese alliance's leaders as most of them join GEwar during that period of time and thus affected the emotions of all chinese players till now.
我进入gewar 的时候,将基地放在了我的房顶上,发现周围的城市都被GDI 占据,在bbs.godeyes.cn 论坛上 几乎都是与GDI 作战的帖子,于是我也毫不犹豫的加入了战斗。当时中国玩家数量至少有100人,因为论坛有个自愿登记的帖子 ,hi141排在NO.87 ,还有很多没去登记的。但是几乎没有一个联盟能有效的组织大家,这个的情况,用现在我们的观点看是很灰暗的 。与GDI 的作战,几乎没有任何成效,积攒了1周的资金,打下一个城市,马上就丢了,然后继续积累,继续 打,继续丢
GDI 的goes 被认为是无限的。 几乎所有的人都在考虑:大家的出路在那? 有些人因此违规的使用多账号
. 更为严重的是,有的并没违规而被毫无原因的封了。GDI 曾经使全体中国玩家封号的事件,相信很多人应该能记得。
When I 1st join GEwar, I place the Homebase right on top of my roof and found that all surrounding cities are occupied by GDI. At the forum of bbs.godeyes.cn, it was almost littered with messages to wage war on GDI and I quickly jump into the fight against GDI. There was around 100 China players and i was No.87 when i registered and there are many more that did not make it to the registrations. But there seems to be no 1 alliance that can effectively organize us, that was consider a gray period if we view it at our currently stand point. The war against GDI was not effective, city was lost as quickly as it was taken, using up geos we save for weeks and we continue doing so for weeks.... GDI's geos seems unlimited. Everyone was wondering where is the outcome? some started to create multiple accounts..... worst came when innocent players were banned for that reason. Many should still recall how GDI gets the whole chinese community to be banned.
在这个时期,中国玩家形成了一些共识,探索出了一些打法,顺便介绍几个:
a.城市往往不是依靠攻击得到的,而是通过交涉,ODA 就曾经将这个思想,运用到了极点。只要稍加注意的 人,都能看出来。
b.集中所有人员和goes 打击最具威胁的某个人,以前我们打GDI 的时候,即使这样做,未必有效,但 是不这样做,肯定无效。
c.统一行动,统一指挥,统一资金管理。联盟利益,就是个人利益
d.未经过允许,不得私自进攻非计划内目标城市
e.严格保密原则。我们有一套独立于gewar 的通讯系统,包括手机 和电话 。所以,即使有权限的管理员也很难通过留言板和pm 了解中国玩家。因为我们认为gewar交流方式,不安全。其原因是:gdi曾经被认为通过这种渠道,收集中 国玩家的信息。
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还有很多,这里就不一一举例,
During this period of time, China players had come to a common understanding, figuring out some tatics ...eg :
a)Cities are never fought for, they are gain thru diplomacy, ODA had once perfect this tatic.
b)United every players and geos and hit hard on a single threat, this was used on GDI, it may not be effective but at least it create a punch.
c)coordinates all attacks, central leadership and funding. Benefits the alliance means benefiting all members in the alliance.
d)no un-authorised missions
e)we have our own discreet ways of communications. Including cellphones and telepjones. We do not trust the PMs as we believe info will be easily leak to our enemies thru Pms.
etc etc etc
最后需要对原gdi 成员及其相关成员说:中国玩家 已经不再追究以前的事情,我们大多数都懂得宽容和谅解。打gdi 的那段时间,现在想来也很有趣,前天与BB (BigBang ,tiger 前领袖,这轮没玩) 闲聊时,BB 也说,很怀念那个时期,几个人,几条枪打天下。
Last, we like to clearify that we do not hold anymore grudges against the GDI members anymore. We understand the term "forgive and forget". But it was really fun when we recall then moments we had while talking to BB(ex leader of Tiger).
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:35 AM 2.介绍一下中国玩家思维方式的文化背景:
这是一个庞大的背景,任何人不可能说清楚,所以,141 只能按照个人的思考角度来阐述其中一个元素。
2.about our Chinese cultures and philosophy....
i can only brielfy describe from my personal understanding as China herself is a great nation with rich background and history.
从遥远的洪荒年代(洪荒年代,色狼,请比较贴切的翻译一下,顺便说一下:全世界都有关于大洪水的传说,中国 的洪水,在人们的传说中是经过几代人治理而退去的 ),中国的这些民族一直生活在这片土地上。统一语言文字,一直延续到现在。中国历史上有分久必合,合久必分 的规律,每当乱世,出现多个军事集团的时候,这些军事集团的最高目标就是:统一中国。而且,这个目标,总能 实现
说上述事情的目的是为了让大家更容易的理解,中国gewar玩家的心态:
f.中国玩家都希望有个统一的 中国gewar 管理团队,但这个希望,目前只是个梦想。
g.每个进攻或占据中国城市的国外玩家,都被视为:入侵,当然由于种种因素的限制,是否反击,是另一个问题 。至少每个中国玩家对入侵者,都有敌意。
h.新加入者,如果不了解情况,会毫不犹豫的将基地放在中国。
From the beginning of time(i skip what 141 wants me to evalobrate here..its too long winded) The many tribes of the chinese nations had been living in the land of the dragon, after many generations of hardship, we defeated the floods, we united our langauge and writings. China was many times seperated into different states and united again times after times till now. Many militias once fought in this land and their final goal is always to unite the warring states as one, and this goal was always met.
The above message is to let other national players know what are the objective of the chinese players.
f)All the chinese players had always wanted a unite chinese team to fully take control of chinese cities but till now it is still a dream.
g)Players from other nations that hold a china's city are consider as an invader, we may not resisit the invasions at once due to many reasons but they are always consider as hostile.
h)new players who does not understand the situation here will always like to place their base in China.
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:36 AM 介绍一下目前中国各联盟的盟规和策略
1.ODA
ODA 是在攻打gdi 的时候,在中国玩家中树立起威信的,得到了大家的认可。我曾短暂进入ODA,ODA那个时候只招 Dona tor ,确切地说我是被 踢出来的 :)。我一直与ODA保持频繁接触,因为,几乎所有中国玩家都在一个 网上交流软件(QQ)中沟通。
ODA 的政策体现了很多传统思想:防御,攒钱。就像中国之所以修建万里长城那样,修一个国家级的城墙,我们不出去 打别人,其他人也不要进来打我们。在上一轮,即使其他中国联盟和城市受到攻击,ODA 在这个指导思想下, 经过一番激烈讨论以后,最终选择:沉默。
The current strategy of Chinese alliances.
1.ODA
ODA started to gain others respect during the war with GDI. I was once a member of ODA but at that time ODA only accept donators as members, so i was kick out of that alliance. But I still keep in close contacts with ODA using a chat tool call "QQ" which is very popular in the chinese community.
ODA strategy had the traditional image of China's ancent warfare; defending, economy... just like building a modern great wall of china, we dun attack and the others stop invade. Even when other chinese alliance are being attack and losing cities, ODA still choose to stay out and be neutral.
在上轮,由于ODA跟多数联盟签订了NAP ,ODA 除了在即将reset 前参加了混战,整整4个多月,没有敌人,不战争,不扩张。这种做法,不但中国其他联盟不认同,ODA内部也 存在很多讨论。当ODA超过4,000,000 goes 的时候,记得我曾经跟dtzz (前ODA领袖之一,这轮没玩)说过,ODA 现在不能进行战争,否则gewar 会因此严重失去平衡。 Dtzz 表示,他也认为ODA 的指导思想在下一轮要调整,但,这轮ODA不能破坏NAP原则。
ODA上轮的和平策略,虽然拥有最安全的环境,最多的goes ,但是也产生了很多负影响。不但孤立其他中 国玩家,而且遭到很多误解。在这一轮开始的时候,ODA 似乎并没有大的改变,如果不是 Ni ght Critters 大举进攻ODA ,ODA 看样子还要延续以前的作风。。。 。。。Night Critters像沉睡在沙漠中的魔鬼军团,打完ODA后,就神秘的消失了,等待着下一次被唤醒。由于AO 也参与进攻 ODA ,所以ODA 终于找到了目标。。。 。。。
ODA had many NAPs during the last reset and only took part in the chaos when the reset was near. So there had been nearly 4 months that ODA does not have any enemies or battle. Such actions was not "agree" by other chinese alliance and few players start to have doubts too inside ODA itself. Once they had a combine geos of 4,,000,000.
The "peaceful" strategy of ODA may have pay off with lots of geos and peaceful times but there are also few side effects. their actions starts to isolate other chineser players and there are also many misunderstandings. If not for the invasions of the Night Critters, ODA would have still maintain their "peaceful" policy till now... and because AO tries to take advantage of the situation during the Night Critters attacks, ODA finally found its main target.
下面是ODA 招新人的信息:
你想和其他中国玩家并肩战斗吗?加入ODA metal吧。
ODA metal是ODA直属二级联盟,从这里开始,你可以了解ODA并有机会加入其中。
加入ODA metal联盟意味着要遵循以下规则:
遵循联盟发展战略;
服从联盟作战指挥;
经常能够上线,参与联盟活动;
ODA metal联盟为成员提供的发展空间包括:
享有ODA所签订的一系列和平协议,意味着相对安全的发展环境;
在资金达到一定程度的时候联盟负责帮助获取城市;
联盟使用外交途径解决冲突;
提供新手启动资金
相关连接: http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=110932
---注意一点: 这是个战争游戏,而oda在规则中对如何战争,只字未提 :(
below are the recuitment advertisment from ODA:
Do you wish to fight along side with other chinese counterparts ? then join ODA Metal~
ODA Metal is a sub alliance of ODA. From here, you will start to understand how ODA works and may stand a chance of joining ODA itself.
Joinning ODA Metal mean u need to follow the below rules :
To follow the alliance's progressive strategy.
To follow the alliance leadership in battles.
able to be online frequently.
ODA Metal's members will enjoy the below benefits :
Enjoy the same NAPs as ODA
the alliance will help u get a city when u reach a certain amount of geos.
the alliance will use diplomacy ways to resolve conflicts
newbies will be given some amount of geos as "starting funds".
link : http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=110932
..... take note that this is a war game but ODA did not mentions a word how they are going to play this "war" game
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:37 AM 2.TIGERS
TIGER也是在打GDI过程中,组建而来。从上轮开始逐渐出现在GEWAR 舞台上,上轮,我多数时间在TIGER ,除了开始和最后。Tiger 我最为了解。我在TIGER 主要负责的就是:招人 。
TIGER 初期的指导思想与ODA 差不多,但是tiger 开始人员少,城市小,后来一步步发展起来的。因此,与ODA 有着不同的观念。我负责招人,举一个这个方面的例子:ODA 招人是很严格的,因为人多了难管理,还有一个 原因是怕出现间谍。上轮刚开始的时候,很多人想加入ODA,但没得到邀请。TIGER 来者不拒,间谍问题上, Tiger 曾经有过这个共识:如果tiger出现间谍, 可能是tiger 做错了什么 ,而不是出卖tiger的人。TIGER的成员违反盟规,第一次会得到告诫:下不为例,第二次还会得到告诫 :下不为例。曾经有ODA的朋友问我,第三次如何处理?我只有微笑了
2.Tigers
Tiger Alliance was also build during the conflict with GDI. It started to gain attentions during the last reset. I have been with Tiger most of the time last round and my job there was : recuitment officer. In the beginning, Tigers had the same concept as ODA, but we started with few members and little values of cities. Soon we grow and start to part our thinkings with ODA. Example, ODA are strict in recuiting, as they are afriad of SPIES and also management problems when members gets too many, and so many chinese players are not been invited to join them. As for Tiger, we take whoever wants to join us. We are worried about spies issues also but we had believe that it must be something that the alliance that had done wrong inorder to get a member to betray us. when Tiger members did not follow the alliance rule, they will usually get 2 warnings... so what happen if it was the third time ask one of the ODA members ? I just smile...
TIGER 的盟规:
0.不要用多id ,我们可以输掉游戏,但是不可以输掉中国玩家的声誉。
1.成员之间平等相待,齐心协力,统一行动,有争议事件民主决定,一旦决定,共同维护
2.进攻 防御 资金自愿共享,一方有难,八方支援.
3.联盟成员未受到攻击时,不要私自挑起事端
4不打新人,不欺弱小,不畏强暴
5. 不得攻击与我们有NAP 或者互信的联盟 ,犯此条者,自动退盟。
Tiger 曾经与 AO 长期战争过,上述第4条里的最后一项是Tiger 最终先选择战争的原因。
Tigers alliance rules:
0. no multiple accounts, we can lose the game but not the pride of chinese players
1. all members are equal, united and co-ordinate every action plans.
2. attacking or defending, we share our geos (1 for all, all for 1)
3. do not attack if u are not being attack upon.
4. no attack on newbies and never fear the bullies
5. not to attack NAPs alliance or friendly alliances, remove yourself from the alliance if done so.
we choose the no.4 rule during this long and bitter war with the AOs.
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:38 AM Wolf of toTem
Wolf 是个喜欢自由的群体,不喜欢受约束 ,最具进攻性。喜欢丛林,对固守城市不很感兴趣。Wolf在我们中国玩家内部,很容易交流。但是,如果有人 毫无原因的打了他们,会遭到最强烈的复仇,只有被Wolf 复仇过的人,才能认识到,何为Wolf ! 。 Loddq 是盟主,我们频繁接触,Loddq很直率,有修养。
Wolf is a group of players that enjoy freedom, most aggressive, love the woods and never likes to defend their cities. They are very easy going among us chinese players but they will not hesitate to take all out revenge on anyone that attack them for no reasons.... only the enemies of WOlf will know its true colors. Loddq is the leader of the pack.
这是狼图招人的公告:
又是一轮开始了,狼图腾延续一贯作风,没有大的战略目标。但只要你是狼图腾的一员,当你受到攻击时所有狼图 腾成员都会发兵为你夺回失地,哪怕是拼尽最后一滴血。这就是狼,一个视团队为一切的联盟。如果你也是这样的 人,欢迎你加入我们。详见,http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=142046
below is their recuitment statements :
a new round of GEwar has begin. Wolf will still be upholding their traditional style, no big objectives here but if any of our members were hit, we will all stand alongside you even if to bleed till the last drop of blood. This is the code of the WOlf... an alliance that view its pack as a whole.... if you also have the same kind of mentality as us... join us~!!!
link:,http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=142046
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:39 AM Godeyes
Godeyes 是为了训练新兵而创立的。中国玩家有很多想玩的,但是注册了以后,没有得到及时的帮助,慢慢失去了兴趣。所 以,我创建了这个联盟。我现在的工作做的很不够,中国地区图上,现在还是有很多,仅仅建立了基地,就消失的 玩家。
Godeyes establishment is for the purpose of training new recuits. There are alot of China Players interested in the game but after they had register, they started to lost interest as they did not get enough help. Therefore the Godeyes alliance is form but I have not fully done my part as we can see players leaving the game after building their home base.
Godeyes 的招人公告:
GEWAR 在这一轮已经进入后半程了,新注册的玩家在这一阶段,学习如何打仗,如何降低防守成本,如何根据敌人的弱点 组织进攻,为下一轮积累经验是很有必要的。
Godeyes 联盟,成立的目的就是为了实战训练,对固守某个城市不感兴趣。只是为了好玩,无牵无挂,快意恩 仇~ ~
联盟成员可以随时退出本盟,自立门户,或者加入其他联盟改邪归正
欢迎报名,来者不拒。
Godeyes recuitment notice :
GEWAR had entered into the 2nd half of the reset. New players at this level could practice attacks and defences of cities, zooming into enemy's weakness and co-ordinates attacks. All these is to gain some experience and get prepare for the next round of reset.
Members can quit the alliance at anytime and form their own alliance, or join the other alliances. All are welcome....
下面是我以盟主的身份说的一些话:
1. Godeyes 联盟,必须依靠战争来取得发展的空间,我们会略微带有一些民族自豪感的热情,去攻打我们钟爱的 城市。
2. 没有被Godeyes攻击过的人,最好不要打我们的新手。
3. 如果你发现Godeyes 的某个成员,在刚刚注册不久,就拥有大量军队,可以不必再去麻烦管理员查询资金来历了,直接pm我,我会告 诉你:资金是我提供的
below are what i wish to say as the leader of the alliance:
1. Godeyes alliance need to make war inorder to progress. We are likely to attack cities that we like due to our nation's pride.
2. Players that have never been attack by Godeyes alliances before pls leave our newbies alone.
3. If anyone gets suspicious about a new Godeyes members came roaring with tons of armies and wonder where he/her get the geos, he/she could PM me directly without bothering the MODs as I will truely tell you that i sponsered those geos.
ronnielim 04-18-2007, 08:40 AM hi141... you want me to translate all that ??? you Q$@#%#$!^#!@#%$%&^#@!#%^$@!#$^#
you need to pay me 10000 geos to do that~~ ;club
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:40 AM 老狼,在其位则谋其政,慢慢翻译吧,
辛苦了
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:42 AM hi141... you want me to translate all that ??? you Q$@#%#$!^#!@#%$%&^#@!#%^$@!#$^#
you need to pay me 10000 geos to do that~~ ;club
成交,还是那句话:错一个字,罚100g
ldptest 04-18-2007, 08:48 AM 报到!
终于找到队伍了!
hi141 04-18-2007, 08:52 AM 报到!
终于找到队伍了!
我马上邀请你 OK?
QQ:87187177 群号: 2575528
Joedeuces124 04-18-2007, 09:06 AM Godeyes
Godeyes 是为了训练新兵而创立的。中国玩家有很多想玩的,但是注册了以后,没有得到及时的帮助,慢慢失去了兴趣。所 以,我创建了这个联盟。我现在的工作做的很不够,中国地区图上,现在还是有很多,仅仅建立了基地,就消失的 玩家。
Godeyes 的招人公告:
GEWAR 在这一轮已经进入后半程了,新注册的玩家在这一阶段,学习如何打仗,如何降低防守成本,如何根据敌人的弱点 组织进攻,为下一轮积累经验是很有必要的。
Godeyes 联盟,成立的目的就是为了实战训练,对固守某个城市不感兴趣。只是为了好玩,无牵无挂,快意恩 仇~ ~
联盟成员可以随时退出本盟,自立门户,或者加入其他联盟改邪归正
欢迎报名,来者不拒。
下面是我以盟主的身份说的一些话:
1. Godeyes 联盟,必须依靠战争来取得发展的空间,我们会略微带有一些民族自豪感的热情,去攻打我们钟爱的 城市。
2. 如果Godeyes 没有攻击过人,最好不要打我们的新手。
3. 如果你发现Godeyes 的某个成员,在刚刚注册不久,就拥有大量军队,可以不必再去麻烦管理员查询资金来历了,直接pm我,我会告 诉你:资金是我提供的
Godeyes Godeyes is for train the recruit to establish. China plays the family to have very many wants to play, but has registered after, has not obtained the prompt help, slowly has lost the interest. Therefore, I founded this alliance. I now the work do am very insufficient, on the Chinese area chart, now or has very many, merely has established the base, vanishes plays the family. A Godeyes move of person announced that, GEWAR after this turn already entered the half range, the new registration played the family in this stage, how studied goes to war, how reduced the defensive cost, how acted according to enemy's weakness organization attack, has the necessity very much for the next round accumulation experience. The Godeyes alliance, the establishment goal is for the live operational training, to defends stubbornly some city not to be interested. Only is for be amusing, has no cares, pleased love and hate ~ the ~ alliance member may withdraw from this pledge as necessary, supports oneself the gateway, or joins other alliances "to change evilly reforms" the welcome registration, 来者不拒. Under is I some speeches which said by hegemon's status: 1. Godeyes alliance, must depend upon the war to obtain the development the space, we can have some national sense of pride slightly the enthusiasm, attacks our cherish the city. 2. if the Godeyes attack has not been excellent, should better not have to hit us the novice. 3. if you discovered Godeyes some member, just was registering soon, has the massive armies, was allowed not to need again to go troubles the manager to inquire the fund origin, direct pm I, I could tell you: Under the fund is I provides is I some speeches which said by hegemon's status: 1. Godeyes alliance, must depend upon the war to obtain the development the space, we can have some national sense of pride slightly the enthusiasm, attacks our cherish the city. 2. if the Godeyes attack has not been excellent, should better not have to hit us the novice. 3. if you discovered Godeyes some member, just was registering soon, has the massive armies, was allowed not to need again to go troubles the manager to inquire the fund origin, direct pm I, I could tell you: The fund is I provides
jinchf_sxzjcn 04-18-2007, 09:32 AM Very nice thank joedeuces124. :slow
Maybe ronnielim lost his job. If he want another I can recommend. ;94 ;94 ;94
ronnielim how about translate godeye. If you do I will pay all which I get next reset. :beat :beat :beat :beat
ronnielim 04-18-2007, 09:36 AM Very nice thank joedeuces124. :slow
Maybe ronnielim lost his job. If he want another I can recommend. ;94 ;94 ;94
ronnielim how about translate godeye. If you do I will pay all which I get next reset. :beat :beat :beat :beat
it will be good if there is another player who can translate them as i am not always available...
ronnielim 04-18-2007, 09:39 AM 老狼,在其位则谋其政,慢慢翻译吧,
辛苦了
但你说了好多费话~~
hi141 04-18-2007, 09:59 AM 但你说了好多费话~~
10000 的话费 ,有必要详细的讲述,大禹治水的典故
hi141 04-18-2007, 10:07 AM it will be good if there is another player who can translate them as i am not always available...
如果老狼因此偷懒,下次我用文言文写
ronnielim 04-18-2007, 10:10 AM 如果老狼因此偷懒,下次我用文言文写
文言文我也会。。。 新加坡人不是只会白化文。。
但你用甲骨文我肯定不会~~
文言文我也会。。。 新加坡人不是只会白化文。。
但你用甲骨文我肯定不会~~
他要是用英文,你肯定不会... :cheesy
hi141 04-18-2007, 11:01 AM 文言文我也会。。。 新加坡人不是只会白化文。。
但你用甲骨文我肯定不会~~
我的意思是,翻译软件无法破译古文。
老狼的文学功底,我是知道的
李后主的词。。。
春花秋月何时了?
往事知多少。
小楼昨夜又东风,
故国不堪回首月明中!
雕阑玉砌应犹在,
只是朱颜改。
问君能有几多愁,
恰似一江春水向东流
BigBang 04-18-2007, 12:26 PM 色狼的文学功底果然了得~~
我爱台妹,台妹爱我 ~~~
knight02 04-18-2007, 06:38 PM 写了好多啊。。141的文笔就是不同凡响啊!
色狼好好翻译,翻不出来的打屁屁哦,以后我们一定多发各类古文,古诗词!让全GEWAR都能看到色狼版的中 国古文学 ;)
Joedeuces124 04-19-2007, 02:59 AM I used yahoo babelfish its just cut and paste. Ill be glad to stop in from time to time to translate.
我使用了雅虎babelfish 它的正义剪贴。不适是高兴时常停下来翻译。
hi141 04-19-2007, 03:33 AM I used yahoo babelfish its just cut and paste. Ill be glad to stop in from time to time to translate.
我使用了雅虎babelfish 它的正义剪贴。不适是高兴时常停下来翻译。
你做的很好,非常感谢你 迅速、有效的动作
我与ronnielim 的那段对话,实际意思是:希望 ronnielim 能 认真的 完成 翻译工作。
hi141 04-19-2007, 03:48 AM 报到!
终于找到队伍了!
我在能联系到你的论坛,发了pm, 你注意gewar页面的上角的红色提示。
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ldptest 在 http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=109792&AUpflag=1&ANum=1&Ap=4 告诉我,他无法进入我们的交流系统,如果他不注意我的 pm,就意味着:无法联系。我们的新人,由于语言障碍,有的根本意识不到有pm, 这种情况很常见
hi141 04-20-2007, 02:32 AM As this is nothing to do with GeWar... i don't i need to translate this message....
But to fulfill Hi141 wish, i will do the 1st para..
老狼,你的翻译水平,不敢恭维。
写了一篇文言,看到你前面的翻译,没兴趣写下去了,发个残稿,
引子:
吾一友深谙五行干支,预言之事,屡试不爽。某日,觥筹之际乞鄙人四注,思之良久而曰:某年某月当入黑道。吾 大笑之。偶得机缘,修习僧门道派之拳法,若入邪道,有悖门规,天理不容。若以结朋党象而应入武门之事,所言 之年月不合。此友进而言曰,确为朋党,期而验之。昨日与友对酌,偶忆前事,笑其妄判,友深思而言曰:确有结 朋党之相,且众。吾忽觉而问曰:游戏之虚可与之等论乎?友曰:然! 呜呼,幻境之不虚幻也!虚非虚,幻非幻,皆定数乎?
I have a friend who had been successful in the practice of the ancient immortality ways. One fine day after some deep thoughts, one spoke : time comes to join the dark. I laughed. It was fated that i was able to practice the ways of the buddish and tao's martial arts, if i were to join the dark, it will be a shame to my school and the heavens will not agree.,,, blah blah blah~~~
正文:
初入此境,举目四望,万里江山,尽挂番旗,顿觉愤然。然手无缚鸡,身无立锥,积旬之势方的一击,虽屡战屡败 ,但屡败屡战。一日作兴,伐一倭寇,登坛而呼,见九州儿女,合力而击,尽屠其城,知人心思归,当另辟蹊径。 虽引微数之众,出玉门,渡流沙,入西域,辗转大漠,设宴鸿门,胁胡酋,不战而屈人之兵,得北溟数地,欲蛰伏 以图中原。恰逢此劫已满,劫火所至,万城俱空。吾辈展图而定,尽收漠北之地。约法三章,休养生息,广招寒士 ,欲蓄势而发。一日,军中闲谈,论及南洋沃土,乘兴发奇正之兵,欲探之,未料,守敌慌乱,弃城而遁,竟轻取 南海数大都。窃喜之际,故仇家,引群豪兵临城下,且言语轻蔑,吾等怒发冲冠,焚城散众,欲意玉石俱焚。但念 不可为匹夫之勇,后,重整旗鼓,血战沙场,几尽全力。幸得天朝盟军相助,发兵讨敌,方得喘息。是役消耗甚巨 ,思归修整。然树欲静而风不止,不日,天朝之军受困天竺,吾辈不忍视而无睹,虽力排众议,率三千虎贲,入镇 天竺诸城,心虚强做盛兵之势。天朝盟军苦战耗敌,敌却,稍得安息。吾辈则约两旬之期,枕戈待旦,计日而待。 期至,齐发百万雄兵,逐鹿天下,尽斩仇家,一吐胸中之气,快哉!
。。。 。。。
In the beginning of entry, browsing accross the millions miles of land. foreign flags flew in the sky, a sudden anger and pain fill my heart. But was weak and lonely.... blah blah blah~~~
陶然于杯中之物而戏书,唯博识仓颉者一莞尔。莫译之。
ldptest 04-20-2007, 07:15 AM [QUOTE=hi141]我在能联系到你的论坛,发了pm, 你注意gewar页面的上角的红色提示。
我会留意的。 ;shoot
老狼,你的翻译水平,不敢恭维。
写了一篇文言,看到你前面的翻译,没兴趣写去了,发个残稿,
引子:
吾一友深谙五行干支,预言之事,屡试不爽。某日,觥筹之际乞鄙人四注,思之良久而曰:某年某月当入黑道。吾 大笑之。偶得机缘,修习僧门道派之拳法,若入邪道,有悖门规,天理不容。若以结朋党象而应入武门之事,所言 之年月不合。此友进而言曰,确为朋党,期而验之。昨日与友对酌,偶忆前事,笑其妄判,友深思而言曰:确有结 朋党之相,且众。吾忽觉而问曰:游戏之虚可与之等论乎?友曰:然! 呜呼,幻境之不虚幻也!虚非虚,幻非幻,皆定数乎?
正文:
初入此境,举目四望,万里江山,尽挂番旗,顿觉愤然。然手无缚鸡,身无立锥,积旬之势方的一击,虽屡战屡败 ,但屡败屡战。一日作兴,伐一倭寇,登坛而呼,见九州儿女,合力而击,尽屠其城,知人心思归,当另辟蹊径。 虽引微数之众,出玉门,渡流沙,入西域,辗转大漠,设宴鸿门,胁胡酋,不战而曲人之兵,得北溟数地,欲蛰伏 以图中原。恰逢此劫已满,劫火所至,万城俱空。吾辈展图而定,尽收漠北之地。约法三章,休养生息,广招寒士 ,欲蓄势而发。一日,军中闲谈,论及南洋沃土,乘兴发奇正之兵,欲探之,未料,守敌慌乱,弃城而遁,竟轻取 南海数大都。窃喜之际,未料,故仇家,引群豪兵临城下,且言语轻蔑,吾等怒发冲冠,焚城散众,欲意玉石俱焚 。但念不可为匹夫之勇,后,重整旗鼓,血战沙场,几尽全力。幸得天朝盟军相助,发兵讨敌,方得喘息。是役消 耗甚巨,思归修整。然树欲静而风不止,不日,天朝之军受困天竺,吾辈不忍视而无睹,虽力排众议,率三千虎贲 ,入镇天竺诸城,心虚强做盛兵之势。天朝盟军苦战耗敌,敌却,稍得安息。吾辈则约两旬之期,枕戈待旦,计日 而待。期至,齐发百万雄兵,逐鹿天下,尽斩仇家,一吐胸中之气,快哉!
。。。 。。。
陶然于杯中之物而戏书,唯博识仓颉者一莞尔。莫译之。
:eek:
崇拜中...
zly666 04-22-2007, 11:09 AM A2Z如果有时间,弄个沪宁会战的文言文,到也不错.
hi141 04-22-2007, 09:25 PM A2Z如果有时间,弄个沪宁会战的文言文,到也不错.
我想把与oda的那段恩怨,写出来, 给个建议 ok?
heheboy 04-24-2007, 06:15 AM 还有这样一块风水宝地,你们太有才了,我还在努力,呵呵
hi141 04-25-2007, 04:34 PM 屡试不爽 老狼完全翻译错了
今天给你上节中文课,课时费,充当你的翻译$$:
屡试不爽
【解释】屡次试验都不错。
【出处】清·蒲松龄《聊斋志异·冷生》:言未已,驴已蹶然伏道上,屡试不爽。
爽 在这里的意思是差错
robertoplanet 04-26-2007, 05:58 AM Godeyes
Godeyes 是为了训练新兵而创立的。中国玩家有很多想玩的,但是注册了以后,没有得到及时的帮助,慢慢失去了兴趣。所 以,我创建了这个联盟。我现在的工作做的很不够,中国地区图上,现在还是有很多,仅仅建立了基地,就消失的 玩家。
Godeyes establishment is for the purpose of training new recuits. There are alot of China Players interested in the game but after they had register, they started to lost interest as they did not get enough help. Therefore the Godeyes alliance is form but I have not fully done my part as we can see players leaving the game after building their home base.
Godeyes 的招人公告:
GEWAR 在这一轮已经进入后半程了,新注册的玩家在这一阶段,学习如何打仗,如何降低防守成本,如何根据敌人的弱点 组织进攻,为下一轮积累经验是很有必要的。
Godeyes 联盟,成立的目的就是为了实战训练,对固守某个城市不感兴趣。只是为了好玩,无牵无挂,快意恩 仇~ ~
联盟成员可以随时退出本盟,自立门户,或者加入其他联盟改邪归正
欢迎报名,来者不拒。
Godeyes recuitment notice :
GEWAR had entered into the 2nd half of the reset. New players at this level could practice attacks and defences of cities, zooming into enemy's weakness and co-ordinates attacks. All these is to gain some experience and get prepare for the next round of reset.
Members can quit the alliance at anytime and form their own alliance, or join the other alliances. All are welcome....
下面是我以盟主的身份说的一些话:
1. Godeyes 联盟,必须依靠战争来取得发展的空间,我们会略微带有一些民族自豪感的热情,去攻打我们钟爱的 城市。
2. 没有被Godeyes攻击过的人,最好不要打我们的新手。
3. 如果你发现Godeyes 的某个成员,在刚刚注册不久,就拥有大量军队,可以不必再去麻烦管理员查询资金来历了,直接pm我,我会告 诉你:资金是我提供的
below are what i wish to say as the leader of the alliance:
1. Godeyes alliance need to make war inorder to progress. We are likely to attack cities that we like due to our nation's pride.
2. Players that have never been attack by Godeyes alliances before pls leave our newbies alone.
3. If anyone gets suspicious about a new Godeyes members came roaring with tons of armies and wonder where he/her get the geos, he/she could PM me directly without bothering the MODs as I will truely tell you that i sponsered those geos.
I just want to understand why Godeyes attack only Vulture.
I΄ve never seen you attacking other alliances...
I΄m not complaining, it΄s fun to have some action! :)
But i΄m asking this trying to be friendly, because your behaviour attacking an alliance that never attacked you, and only attacking this alliance many many many times could be misunderstood by some people.
People may think you are a merc alliance.
Again: i just came here because i think that your behaviour does not contribute to make friends of other countries.
I΄m brazilian and have no problems in attack other brazilians. I don΄t even get a city in my country...
well, good luck to you chinese buddies.
If you ever need some help or just want to talk fell free to PM me.
cheers.
ronnielim 04-26-2007, 07:00 AM 还有这样一块风水宝地,你们太有才了,我还在努力,呵呵
都是纸上谈兵, 庸才献才华。。。 不必费心~~
ronnielim 04-26-2007, 07:03 AM 屡试不爽 老狼完全翻译错了
今天给你上节中文课,课时费,充当你的翻译$$:
屡试不爽
【解释】屡次试验都不错。
【出处】清·蒲松龄《聊斋志异·冷生》:言未已,驴已蹶然伏道上,屡试不爽。
爽 在这里的意思是差错
就知道你抄书的。。。 你哪有如此文笔。。。。
五十步笑百步。。。
purefrost 04-26-2007, 07:38 AM 這裡有人用繁體字嗎? ;bunny
knight02 04-26-2007, 08:04 AM 应该有,不过简体繁体都一样,大家都能看懂,随便写 :D
hi141 04-27-2007, 07:19 AM I just want to understand why Godeyes attack only Vulture.
I΄ve never seen you attacking other alliances...
I΄m not complaining, it΄s fun to have some action! :)
But i΄m asking this trying to be friendly, because your behaviour attacking an alliance that never attacked you, and only attacking this alliance many many many times could be misunderstood by some people.
People may think you are a merc alliance.
Again: i just came here because i think that your behaviour does not contribute to make friends of other countries.
I΄m brazilian and have no problems in attack other brazilians. I don΄t even get a city in my country...
well, good luck to you chinese buddies.
If you ever need some help or just want to talk fell free to PM me.
cheers.
Godeyes 最初打的是 3rd .
如果你理解当初中国玩家为何打 GDI ,就能明白,Godeyes 为何打 Vulture
明确的说:Vulture 占了太多中国城市,而这些城市就在我们的 HB 周围,不打Vulture 打谁? 我们 只打在中国活动频繁的Vulture 成员 其它Vulture 成员,不会遭到袭击 :)
你想了解更多的情况,可以去 http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=188582 ,
在我们的论坛, 如果你稍加注意就会发现 ,这个论坛的注册用户有64475 人 ,GEWAR 只是其中一个板块。如果我们有时间 Godeyes 的人数还会按照目前的速度继续增长。
谢谢你,让我了解到你的观点。
hi141 04-27-2007, 07:25 AM 就知道你抄书的。。。 你哪有如此文笔。。。。
五十步笑百步。。。
乘兴发奇正之兵,欲探之,未料,守敌慌乱,弃城而遁,竟轻取 南海数大都。
这段故事,你应该能想起来,南海数大都就包括 新加坡,你曾派兵去了,BB告诉你,等你有了足够的资金再来吧,你欣然同意。
masquer 04-27-2007, 08:57 AM I just want to understand why Godeyes attack only Vulture.
blah-blah-blah
don't listen to him guys and take what's yours, also we're ready to give you any support needed to pull out some feathers from vultures
Generic42 04-27-2007, 11:32 PM masquer, it's nice you support, but it's not really language support... just make another thread to talk about Vulture if you'd like :)
officearmysix 05-01-2007, 02:46 AM 我是中国广东深圳的,大家不要自己人打自己人啊,
officeman 05-17-2007, 10:06 AM 我是中国广东深圳的,大家不要自己人打自己人啊,
不是报名帖。有问题而语言有障碍才需要来此请求帮助。
cheuk18me94 05-17-2007, 01:46 PM 我想加入Godeyes/Tiger/ODA/ODA Metal聯盟。等等,其他聯盟都不需要即時聯絡工具,只用PM,我們也能這樣做!!!請加我吧!我是真心 為中國的。
purefrost 05-22-2007, 05:23 AM 這位大爺,我發現我認識你............因為你打我的城(Catanzaro, Italy), 為了賠償我的損失,我希望你把Commando Seal當做加入的選項之一,如果有興趣的話,請pm我 :nana
cheuk18me94 05-22-2007, 09:20 AM 你是甚麼人,你說我要加入Commandos seal,為什麼你不參與Commandos Seal? Your location:CA:focus
zly666 05-22-2007, 10:55 AM 你是甚麼人,你說我要加入Commandos seal,為什麼你不參與Commandos Seal? Your location:CA:focus
他在Commandos.
cheuk18me94 05-22-2007, 11:57 AM 不是啊! 我是問他是什麼國家的人!!
purefrost 05-23-2007, 01:19 AM 我是中國人阿.......不過我現在在 美國 加州(CA),了解?
zly666 05-23-2007, 05:22 AM 不是啊! 我是問他是什麼國家的人!!
你那里问一个人那里来的,是说:他是什么人? 这样的吗?
cheuk18me94 05-23-2007, 09:05 AM 為什麼你不參加中國聯盟(godeyes/ODA/ODA Metal/Tiger)
對不起,我不知你是 中國人.......
purefrost 05-24-2007, 01:01 AM 嗯.....這是一個蠻長的故事, 我直接說重點吧, 我的同學之前也在玩,所以他介紹我進Commandos,再加上我跟他們之間沒有太大的語言障礙,而我也不 知道ODA是由中國玩家所組成,所以我就一直留在Commandos. 了解? ;yes
knight02 05-24-2007, 05:04 AM 是中国人不一定都在中国联盟.当然欢迎大家来到中国联盟 :friends
purefrost 05-24-2007, 05:24 AM 雖然不在中國聯盟裡,但我的精神永在中國,多搶點中國的城回來吧 :drinks
hi141 05-24-2007, 06:26 AM 我做了一些应该做的事情
killer_fr 05-29-2007, 01:03 AM ;waddle ;waddle ;waddle ;waddle
purefrost 06-01-2007, 07:16 AM SupER STAR 是新的中國聯盟嗎?
is SupER STAR a new chinese alliance ?
killer_fr 06-01-2007, 11:55 PM SupER STAR 是新的中國聯盟嗎?
是的,以后多多帮助啊
Yes, do take care of us in future
badbutterfly 06-02-2007, 08:56 AM 首先非常感谢管理员以及老狼等同志为中国玩家提供了一个同世界其他玩家交流的窗口,我想从中国的历史、教育 等背景分析一下中国玩家的思维模式,也是让世界各国的玩家更好的了解一下中国,还请老狼翻译一 下 :cheesy
1、5000年的中国文明造就了传统的东方思维模式。让我们看一看中国的朝代简表,从秦始皇统一中国开始, 到大汉王朝、盛唐时期
期间虽然经历无数的战火洗礼和朝代变更,依然没有使中国四分五裂,在各个时期寻求 统一的道路上都为战争付出了惨重的代价,但历代统治者和中国人民对统一中国的强烈愿望是相同的,而这种 愿望在惨烈的战争和不惜一切代价的角逐后总是最终实现。大汉天子的一句话犯我强汉者 虽远必诛,充分体现中国古代为了民族统一而不惜一切代价的军事思想和传统的思维模式。以至于这种思想至今 还深刻的影响着当代中国人。
2、帝国主义侵略造就了强烈的民族自尊心。18世纪到19世纪,中国经历的长达百年的帝国主义侵略。我们现 在称呼那个时期为中华百年屈辱史。那个时期,中国经历了进入半殖民地半封建社会的鸦片战争,中法战争, 甲午中日战争,八国联军侵华,日本对华侵略等等,总之,在西方工业文明与中国农业文明的这种较不公平的较量 中,中国一步步沦落,一步步被宰割。。。。在这种背景下,中国人民在艰苦的条件下,奋起抗战,经过艰苦卓绝 的长期斗争,最终走向了胜利!也就是那时造就了中国人民强烈的民族自尊心和爱国热情!
3、新时期爱国主义教育和中国的进步造就了强烈的爱国主义精神。新中国的建立,结束了中国百年屈辱史,经过 50余年的发展,中国从落后逐渐走向强盛,每个中国人都为之自豪!科技的进步、经济的发展、国家的强盛、加 之教育部门对全社会勿忘国耻的爱国主义教育,这些使每个中国人心中都有了一种强烈的爱国主义精神!这种精神 越是在祖国危难时越会得到充分体现,表面上一盘散沙的中国人在外敌面前会异常的团结一致!而这个游戏给了广 大中国玩家一个展现爱国主义精神的窗口!我想这也是许多中国新玩家加入这个游戏的初衷,也就是为什么新玩家 会豪不犹豫的攻击中国城市的原因。
以上是中国玩家普遍存在的心里特征!其实我们一直在对所有中国玩家说要把现实同游戏一分为二,但事实是很难 做到,就如同乌克兰要占领他们地处的城市一样,每个玩家多少会带进一些感情色彩。这里也希望大 家能够谅解。
东西方文明的差异造就了东西方思维模式上的差异,加之语言的鸿沟,使东西方玩家的矛盾、误会增多以至加深, 同时也造成了许多不明真相的世界其他玩家受某些别有用心的人搞出的讨伐帖的误导,以至于被利用。这是荒谬的 和不负责任的。中国人不怕战争,有能力的自己来讨伐。借刀杀人这种做法在中国是不耻的。
中国玩家对这个游戏是执着和热爱的,对敌人的态度是抗争到底的,同时对世界其他国家的先进文化也是非常认同 的,例如日本的电子工业,美国的先进科学,巴西的足球
这些都是值得我们学习的,这就是中国 玩家。
最后祝广大玩家开心愉快,不要让游戏影响工作学习哦 :也欢迎朋友们到中国-天津来旅游的时候PM我!我当导游 :cheer
sorry... i dun think this need to be translated as it does not contribute anything to the game...
this are just thoughs of the chinese players so i will keep it this way.
Anyway, for those that are interested to know, the main content is chinese players are trying to keep all the china cities under control by the chinese players as to achieve one united china. whoever tries to invade the china mainland will be seriously dealt with.
hahato 06-02-2007, 10:05 AM 楼上的说得真实在。是这样的。
不管别的国家民族的玩家如何看待,我作为一个中国玩家,骨子里领土完整,民族统一的思想是坚定 不灭的。
也许别的国家的某些玩家可以没有民族国家的概念,但是我不能。
当中华民族需要我的时候,我可以抛头颅洒热血!
完毕!
killer_fr 06-02-2007, 12:26 PM 不管别的国家民族的玩家如何看待,我作为一个中国玩家,骨子里领土完整,民族统一的思想是坚定 不灭的。
也许别的国家的某些玩家可以没有民族国家的概念,但是我不能。
当中华民族需要我的时候,我可以抛头颅洒热血!
完毕!
Good !! :evil
hi141 06-07-2007, 05:50 PM http://www.gewar.net/forums/showthread.php?p=96218&mode=linear#post96218
Here's the first test.
You can see examples here:
www.gewar.net/war/toptest.php
www.gewar.net/war/topalliancetest.php
Don't go spending all your geos right away. Score's will be reset when it's finished(probably in a few days).
What it does:
The game now gives you points for action.
No points are given for holding a city. No need to ask it either. Talked about it and cities already hand out geos which you can use to gain points. Giving points for cities would be overkill.
Most points can be gained for doing a succesfull attack.
Second most points for being attacked and winning.
Third for attacking and losing.
Least points for being attacked and losing.
Why a score system?
People have been complaining since the start that the current rankings are useless. You can be number 1, and then someone can take it away from you in a day and you might never be number 1 again.
Also with the current rankings, those that NAP with everyone and don't fight(play the game) go to the top. It's the game upside down. NAP's belong in the game and also will with the score system, but now NAP'ing with everyone means you miss out on points.
The score system is also tied to the total amount of troops in the game. 90% of the time these are always growing. Meaning that the longer you wait and save your geos, the less points you can receive(or you have to do some amazing battles).
That's the inflation players asked for. Otherwise it wouldn't matter if you just wait 6 months for attacking.
Nuking is the same as attacking. You get points for troops killed(and it now shows how much troops were killed in latest activity after a nuke).
These points can't be taken away from you.
You will keep these. Someone can in time get more than you, but if you play you will always have this buffer.
Example how it was:
You were a great player. Number 1 for a month. Then you went on vacation and when you came back you were number 349 because your cities were taken from you.
Now:
Number 1 and you have a lot of points. Someone takes your cities away but you keep your points. Easier to get back on top. You might have lost some time, but in time most people go on vacation or are away for a few days so time to catch up. Plus you saved up some geos during your vacation for some good attacks.
Points are ofcourse given for the amount of troops your opponent loses, and then calculated by if you were the attacker/defender and if you won/lost.
Probably some details I forgot but I'll add them here later.
wayaya 06-08-2007, 09:45 AM Good !! :evil
阿,一直想问你。为啥你的名字带FR后缀?还以为你是法国人。
呵呵,老大好.
对于核武器使用的看法,
如果一个城市被核一次,能否价值掉一半
否则有点儿神话色彩了
比如东京,核上10次还是几千万的价值就离奇了.
看着不爽.
另外还有一个不公平
城市里面没有队伍或者说已经被核的时候,应该能够继续核的.
这样估计1周后,全球都是被核的城市了.谁也进不去.
大家都在城外等着下一次核污染的来临.
其实我觉得也应该能进去,
按照核污染程度的百分比,死军队就是了,每24小时,刚核完是死100%.然后不怕死人就往进 冲就是了.
这样打起仗来更爽一些!!我这样认为.
呵呵,个人的不成熟建议.仅供参考.
Hi all mods,
I have some thoughts about using of nukes.
if a city is nuke, can we 1/2 the value of the city?
eg. Tokyo can be nuke 10x but still have that highest value in the game.
secondly, when a city is unoccupied or under the time frame waiting for the nuke's effect to clear, we should have the option to nuke it again.
In this case, we should have lots of cities available after 1 week time.
I also thought that we should be allow to enter a "Nuked" city even though it is still contaminated. we just lost a certain among of troops when we enter or our troops will keep decreasing.
All are my personal view... cheers
00000 06-21-2007, 02:19 PM Good 好建议哈哈 :no ;101
cheuk18me94 06-21-2007, 03:19 PM hi141在那裡,寄了2次pm都不回覆!!
purefrost 06-22-2007, 06:56 AM 怎麼??要加盟??
考慮一下Commandos Seal 吧,待遇不錯喔,不過....中國人就我一個 ;bunny
00000 06-26-2007, 05:43 PM 怎麼??要加盟??
考慮一下Commandos Seal 吧,待遇不錯喔,不過....中國人就我一個 ;bunny
我極其恨你們的老大 :cheesy
purefrost 06-27-2007, 04:06 AM 我極其恨你們的老大 :cheesy
好吧..那算了,不強迫你 :confused:
00000 06-30-2007, 03:25 PM 呵呵,因为你们老大无故打我好几次
hi141 07-02-2007, 12:52 PM hi141在那裡,寄了2次pm都不回覆!!
近期,141长久在外,很少上网,,,
lkm8888a 07-17-2007, 01:14 PM 第一次来这里玩玩,留个名,哈哈
ChinaMARS 07-25-2007, 07:43 AM 我新来的!我是昨天才开始玩的!谁能教教我?刚才买了五个军队,不知道咋用。
无奈
:(
I am a beginer ! I was yesterday to just start something to play! Who can help me?
Just bought five troopses,but I do not know how to use.
Without any way
:(
不要着急,慢慢发展,先不用买部队,要先开矿。。。。
00000 07-26-2007, 12:44 PM 我新来的!我是昨天才开始玩的!谁能教教我?刚才买了五个军队,不知道咋用。
无奈
:(
I am a beginer ! I was yesterday to just start something to play! Who can help me?
Just bought five troopses,but I do not know how to use.
Without any way
:(
欢迎新朋友 :drinks
hi141 08-23-2007, 09:02 AM 当你们被ZERO时。。。。。读读下面李后主的词。。。
春花秋月何时了?
往事知多少。
小楼昨夜又东风,
故国不堪回首月明中!
雕阑玉砌应犹在,
只是朱颜改。
问君能有几多愁,
恰似一江春水向东流
ronnie
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老狼,出来冒个泡吧,在我们忘掉你之前
adf_mice 08-25-2007, 07:52 PM 老狼已经N久没有出现了
ronnielim 08-27-2007, 03:12 AM 老狼已经N久没有出现了
i am still here.... i just cannot access QQ with my new computer as it belongs to the company and had regular audits on the software install
U guys can get me at MSN : ronnielim23@hotmail.com
adf_mice 08-27-2007, 04:13 AM i am still here.... i just cannot access QQ with my new computer as it belongs to the company and had regular audits on the software install
U guys can get me at MSN : ronnielim23@hotmail.com
欢迎回来,老狼 :)
cheuk18me94 08-27-2007, 05:32 AM 怎麼alf_mice會退出WTO?
ronnielim 08-30-2007, 03:00 AM 不要说我种族歧视,我给你们机会多过其他.
实际上我们发现用挖宝器的华人族群人数多过整个世界的其他种族.
但我还是要声明我们还是有很多诚实的华人捍卫着他们的华族精神.
但...还是有害群之马.我们知道他们在作弊,也给了他们很多机会....那是因为我们只99%的把握而不 是100%.但在我们的司法制度里,99%已经足够定罪.
现在不但只是华人户口用挖宝器比别人多的问题,更严重的事发生了.
从昨天开始,服务器受到了他们所谓的 Brute Force 攻击.
他们用所有可用的户口和密码来攻击所有的port.
我们的ISP已经查到来源.....是的....中国
好几个IP被用....全来自中国
企图攻击服务器的行为太过分了.这种行为就像是破门行窃,而你还知道窃贼的来路.这是不法的行为而我也不会 不理.
现在有更多的资讯传到我们的手上....有个华人在讨论最好的方法来作弊.
难道没人听过"公平"吗?
现在他们把"它"传给了其他人,污染了他们人.
就连是犯法的也不在乎?我说的可是现实生活上的犯罪行为而不只是单单指游戏.
我将会如此的做.
所有可疑的中国户口都会被封,没有第二次的机会,IP也会永远被.
被封后请不要联络我,我不会改变我的决定.
任何时候要是PM 我或EMAIL 我,指我是种族歧视也将被封.
让我在次声明不是每个华人都是作弊的,华人用户也不该被挂着作弊的字号. 但我破不得以必须对那些作弊户口采取行动,我已经在这一年里给了很多的警告...一年的时间已 经够长了.
接下来的几个星期将会有很多户口被封. 这不是我的错,不是管理员的错....是你自己(如果你作弊而正在读此讯息)
感谢那些帮助我们的华人用户,我希望你们可以和我们一起合作下去. 我也非常敬重那些长久以来和我们一起的华人.
但我不欣赏作弊和黑客.
不幸的是,因某种原因...来源都来自中国....我必须要这样做.
hi141 09-01-2007, 08:31 AM 每当中国玩家,积累了很多$$的时候,就会有来路不明超量资金,向我们打击的 ,手法完全一致。
最初的 Lucid Dream 和 N C 现在NOAW的,如出一辙。
这就叫公平?
luke 来解释一下吧
前几次,如果你忘了,我们可以帮你找到失去的记忆
我是个新人,也是个中国玩家,在WTO2联盟,自从玩这个游戏以来,我没有作弊过,也没有听说过谁在作弊, 谁攻击过服务器。也许,仅仅是可能,在WTO联盟中有人作弊,但是谁又能说明他是中国玩家,WTO联盟和中 国玩家是两个概念,我不知道luke把这个概念搞明白没有,他可以说WTO成员有人在作弊,但是不能在官方 论坛公然说中国玩家在作弊。luke,如果你看到了我写的这段话,希望你明白,你是游戏的管理者,你不能也 不应该在官方论坛公然指责中国玩家,你要对你的言行负责。WTO成员和中国玩家是两个概念,我想其他联盟可 能也有中国玩家。对于攻击服务器的问题,我的想有几种可能:一、确实有WTO成员攻击了你的服务器,这个W TO成员就是中国人。二、确实有WTO成员攻击了你的服务器,这个WTO成员是在中国境内的外国人。三、攻 击了你的服务器的人根本就不是WTO成员,只是在中国境内的外国人。四、攻击你的服务器的这个人是中国人, 但他根本就没玩这个游戏。五、攻击你的服务器的这个人只是中国境内的外国人,他根本就没玩这个游戏。而你的 指责只是第一种可能,你搞清楚了吗,亲爱的luke?如果你有足够的证据证明谁攻击了你的服务器,谁作弊了 ,你可以直接ban他,如果你没有搞清楚,请不要伤害中国玩家的感情。我知道你不是一个种族主义者,但是我 希望事情弄明白之前,请你自重,再说一次,你是游戏的管理者,你的指责太有杀伤力了!
ronnielim 09-01-2007, 09:10 AM 每当中国玩家,积累了很多$$的时候,就会有来路不明超量资金,向我们打击的 ,手法完全一致。
最初的 Lucid Dream 和 N C 现在NOAW的,如出一辙。
这就叫公平?
luke 来解释一下吧
前几次,如果你忘了,我们可以帮你找到失去的记忆
whenever the China players became strong and accums a huge sum of $$$, we will be attack by a force with special and unexplain funds.
in the beginning there is Lucid Dream, then NC and now NAOW....
do u call this FAIR ??
Luke, please explain this
If you have forgotten the pass incident, I can help you to recap....
ronnielim 09-01-2007, 09:28 AM 我是个新人,也是个中国玩家,在WTO2联盟,自从玩这个游戏以来,我没有作弊过,也没有听说过谁在作弊, 谁攻击过服务器。也许,仅仅是可能,在WTO联盟中有人作弊,但是谁又能说明他是中国玩家,WTO联盟和中 国玩家是两个概念,我不知道luke把这个概念搞明白没有,他可以说WTO成员有人在作弊,但是不能在官方 论坛公然说中国玩家在作弊。luke,如果你看到了我写的这段话,希望你明白,你是游戏的管理者,你不能也 不应该在官方论坛公然指责中国玩家,你要对你的言行负责。WTO成员和中国玩家是两个概念,我想其他联盟可 能也有中国玩家。对于攻击服务器的问题,我的想有几种可能:一、确实有WTO成员攻击了你的服务器,这个W TO成员就是中国人。二、确实有WTO成员攻击了你的服务器,这个WTO成员是在中国境内的外国人。三、攻 击了你的服务器的人根本就不是WTO成员,只是在中国境内的外国人。四、攻击你的服务器的这个人是中国人, 但他根本就没玩这个游戏。五、攻击你的服务器的这个人只是中国境内的外国人,他根本就没玩这个游戏。而你的 指责只是第一种可能,你搞清楚了吗,亲爱的luke?如果你有足够的证据证明谁攻击了你的服务器,谁作弊了 ,你可以直接ban他,如果你没有搞清楚,请不要伤害中国玩家的感情。我知道你不是一个种族主义者,但是我 希望事情弄明白之前,请你自重,再说一次,你是游戏的管理者,你的指责太有杀伤力了!
I am a newbie and I am a chinese player. Ever since I play this game and Join WTO2, I have never been cheating or heard anyone cheats or anyone attemps to attack the server. It could have been possible that someone in WTOs is cheating but who can assure that he is a player from China. I do not understand why Luke had combine WTO and china players(chinese) together. You can claim that someone in WTO is cheating but you cannot officially says that chinese are cheating.
Luke, if u read this, I hope that u will understand that as a game admin, you cannot and should not accuse chinese players as cheaters officially in the forum. You must be responsible for what u did. I believe there are also chinese or china players in other alliances.
regarding the attacks on the server, i had afew points to share :
1. there is someone in WTO that attack your server and he is a china player
2. there is someone in WTO that attack your server and he lives in china but are not a chinese.
3. someone attack your server but is not form WTO but someone who lives in china did it
4. a chinese from china is attacking your server but he is not playing the game at all
5. a non-chinese from china is attacking your server but he is not playing the game at all
but you only took 1. as your answer... do you understands what i mean now ?
if you have enough evidence, you should just ban that user, if you just jump into conclusion then u are hurting the chinese or china players. I know you are not racist but you need to watch what you are saying as you are the boss here and what you say really affect the game.
关于说有中国黑客攻击GEWAR服务器,不一定IP是中国就是中国人攻击的或者说就是WTO的成员攻击的, 这个不排除其他联盟里的高手利用中国服务器做为跳板来攻击GEWAR而嫁祸给WTO,说我们作弊,至少得拿 出证据吧,不能看我们资金积累的多就说我们作弊吧,生活同样是一场游戏,世界首富的钱非常多,你能说他是作 弊得来的吗?你为什么总是要针对我们中国人来说事?
hahato 09-01-2007, 02:54 PM 目前的NAOW还拥有超能量,super power,对WTO的成员胜负比超高,我们要用几乎2倍的兵力才可以取回我们失去的城市,呵呵。不是一次 两次偶尔发生的,你敢说这是公平游戏? :growse
目前的NAOW还拥有超能量,super power,对WTO的成员胜负比超高,我们要用几乎2倍的兵力才可以取回我们失去的城市,呵呵。不是一次 两次偶尔发生的,你敢说这是公平游戏? :growse
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Current NAOW also has super energy, super power, the outcome of WTO members than high, we use almost two times the strength we can recover the lost city, huh. Occasional not once or twice, and you say this is fair game?
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Present NAOW also has the ultra energy, super power, compares thesuperelevation to the WTO member victory and defeat, we must use thecity which nearly 2 time of military strength only then may bring backus to lose, ha-ha. Is not two occasionally occurs, you dare to saythis is the fair game?
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At present NAOW own surpass the energy , the super power, the member success or failure to WTO is compared to a superelevation, we need to use the city , haw-haw losing almost the 2 times armed forces can fetch back us just now. Be not that a two time happens once in a while, that you have the confidence to say this is impartial game?
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tell me which one batter?
linger 09-02-2007, 05:37 AM Somethings is wrong with luke ~!
band me
see you never~!
cheuk18me94 09-02-2007, 07:04 AM 不須要翻譯成英文,Luke懂看中文的
Audiobitch 09-02-2007, 03:47 PM I haven't said anything yet but this is just ridiculous at this point.
I love how people here are claiming that just because a China IP was used does not mean the attacks came from China. Well, as anyone with a computer networking background will tell you that is partially true, but not in this case. For the sake of edification, I am going to give a little class on the basics of hacking and the requirements on the network side. If what Luke has stated regarding the attacking types is true, and I don't doubt that it is, then the attacks MUST have originated in China.
There were two things mentioned as attack vectors against the GEWar server. The first was a Distributed Denial of Service attack. This type of attack uses multiple machines to attempt to overwhelm a server by throwing illegitimate traffic at it completely utilizing either its WAN link, the CPU, or the memory of the server. With these types of attacks, the IP addresses used can be spoofed as the return traffic is unimportant to the attacker and as such they can hide their true location. In this regard, having IPs doesn't mean squat really without access into the provider backbone to see where the traffic is truly originating.
The second type of attack reported by Luke was a Brute Force attack on specific players usernames and passwords. These attacks, too, were originating from Chinese IP addresses. With these types of attacks, the attackers is sending as many combinations of user names and passwords as possible in an attempt the discover a user's password. This attack provides useful information to the attacker, but has a disadvantage compared to the DDoS. In this case, the return traffic from the server, either correct password or incorrect password, is essential to the attack. As such the return traffic must go to the attackers machine, so it is not practical to spoof an IP address when you are attempting to gather passwords. In order to spoof an IP address and still perform a "successful" brute force attack, you would have to hack the provider's network and reroute traffic from the normal IP route for that subnet to your location. This is much more difficult and is normally found at almost immediately by any decent provider. This will also get you jail time, as opposed to just a ban from a game.
So there's a quick hacking tutorial from the network layer. Stop claiming that just because it is a China IP doesn't mean it came from China. That's BS, and this should help you understand why. :rtfm
Oh yeah and ronnielim, thanks for all the translation help ;ipunk
tHE_fOOL 09-02-2007, 04:04 PM YEAH I hope that stops all the repetitive arguing cause I'm tired of seeing it
ronnielim 09-02-2007, 04:18 PM Oh yeah and ronnielim, thanks for all the translation help ;ipunk
hey... thanks on the lesson on IP addresses... I am not an IT guy so i really dun understand anything about such things....
For me it is very simple...
what the info of the IP shows tells me where i am from.. am I right ??
I myself got 2 IPs.....
1 from my home network(local ISP) and 1 from my work place(company's network)
below is the IPs i took from my GEwar page....
222.164.16.31 (home)
64.254.116.14 (work)
can someone here trace the 2 given IP and tell me which country I am from ???
I live and work in the same country by the way.....
I am just curious and just for the fun of it....
Audiobitch 09-02-2007, 04:35 PM Using a tool I have here is what I found in about 30 seconds. A more detailed look can be done to confirm information and get geographical locations more complete, but quick glance this is what I get. (I removed some information such as contact names and what not, although it is free and easy to find.)
IP Address 222.164.16.31 Information
Summary:
Name: cm31.epsilon16.maxonline.com.sg
IP Address: 222.164.16.31
Location: SINGAPORE ( 1.283N, 103.850E)
Network: APNIC8
Network:
OrgName: Asia Pacific Network Information Centre
OrgID: APNIC
Address: PO Box 2131
City: Milton
StateProv: QLD
PostalCode: 4064
Country: AU
ReferralServer: whois://whois.apnic.net
NetRange: 222.0.0.0 - 222.255.255.255
CIDR: 222.0.0.0/8
NetName: APNIC8
NetHandle: NET-222-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Allocated to APNIC
NameServer: NS1.APNIC.NET
NameServer: NS3.APNIC.NET
NameServer: NS4.APNIC.NET
NameServer: NS-SEC.RIPE.NET
NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET
Comment: This IP address range is not registered in the ARIN database.
Comment: For details, refer to the APNIC Whois Database via
Comment: WHOIS.APNIC.NET or http://www.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois2.pl
Comment: ** IMPORTANT NOTE: APNIC is the Regional Internet Registry
Comment: for the Asia Pacific region. APNIC does not operate networks
Comment: using this IP address range and is not able to investigate
Comment: spam or abuse reports relating to these addresses. For more
Comment: help, refer to http://www.apnic.net/info/faq/abuse
RegDate: 2003-02-13
Updated: 2005-05-20
OrgTechHandle: AWC12-ARIN
OrgTechName: APNIC Whois Contact
OrgTechPhone: +61 7 3858 3100
OrgTechEmail: search-apnic-not-arin@apnic.net
ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-09-01 19:10
Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
IP Address 64.254.116.14 Information
Summary:
OrgName: Virtela Communications, Inc.
OrgID: VRTL
Address: 5680 GREENWOOD PLAZA BLVD
City: ENGLEWOOD
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80111
Country: US
ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.virtela.net:4321/
NetRange: 64.254.96.0 - 64.254.127.255
CIDR: 64.254.96.0/19
NetName: VRTL-NET-1
NetHandle: NET-64-254-96-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.VIRTELA.NET
NameServer: NS2.VIRTELA.NET
Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE
Comment: ********************************************
Comment: Reassignment information for this block is
Comment: available at rwhois.virtela.net port 4321
Comment: ********************************************
RegDate: 2001-01-26
Updated: 2003-06-11
RTechHandle: ZZ1412-ARIN
RTechName: ***********
RTechPhone: ***********
RTechEmail: noc@virtela.net
OrgTechHandle: ZZ1412-ARIN
OrgTechName: ***********
OrgTechPhone: ***********
OrgTechEmail: noc@virtela.net
ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-09-01 19:10
Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
Oh yeah, and my tool says the company IP, although the company is listed as a US company, the IP is addressed off of an asia service provider and the best guess I could get was that the IP was originated in Tokyo. I could do more work, but like I said, this was the quick and dirty.
masquer 09-02-2007, 05:08 PM In order to spoof an IP address and still perform a "successful" brute force attack, you would have to hack the provider's network and reroute traffic from the normal IP route for that subnet to your location. This is much more difficult and is normally found at almost immediately by any decent provider. This will also get you jail time, as opposed to just a ban from a game.
you forgot to mention proxy chain as an option to hacking ISP's network ;)
Audiobitch 09-02-2007, 05:17 PM you forgot to mention proxy chain as an option to hacking ISP's network ;)
This is true, but the problem still remains the same. Unless you control some of the proxies either through hacking them or true ownership, there will most likely be a traceable log detailing your activities. I find that most hackers when they try to do some sort of proxy chaining they either use a bot network they've hacked or they use known log-less proxies, which these days are hard to come by.
And there are programs that mask your IP by tracing you through other people's PCs, but these are notoriously slow and you normally can't demand an exit location, it just drops you off a node at a distance.
hi141 09-03-2007, 01:33 AM 我知道,你们很想知道,我们如何挖宝,我们没有违规,我们只是优化了,优化到了极点。
我们用语音来输入验证码 ,我们用 军方数字发音/译音系统,只识别特定音节,99.99的准确率
我会在合适的时机,向全世界GEWAR的玩家公布这套系统,相信,会有1/10的能熟练操作。这个也不会造成游戏失衡。
我现在认为,有人进入WTO内部论坛,向管理员提供了带有诬陷性质的信息,我在彻底查找此人。 最后,我会给所有人一个完整的交代。
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我们的方法,我不认为是作弊:
用语音输入到Google earth 的搜索栏中关于宝石地点的信息,Google earth 的搜索我们已经定义好的宝石地点数据库,这样我们可以刹间飞到宝石所在的地点。
我在考虑是否就详细的数据公开,在我们内部进行投票,
因为 Google earth 的搜索 结合语音识别,来合理的找宝石 ,如果全世界 1/10的掌握,luke 有理由关掉挖宝的功能了。
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如果
结合语音识别 的 google earth 的搜索, 大家认为是作弊,我无话可说,随便你们处理
如果不是作弊,我考虑是否完全公开这个找宝石的方法,与我们的敌人在同一个起跑线挖宝,,,
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 02:47 AM 我知道,你们很想知道,我们如何挖宝,我们没有违规,我们只是优化了,优化到了极点。
我们用语音来输入验证码 ,我们用 军方数字发音/译音系统,只识别特定音节,99.99的准确率
我会在合适的时机,向全世界GEWAR的玩家公布这套系统,相信,会有1/10的能熟练操作。这个也不会造成游戏失衡。
我现在认为,有人进入WTO内部论坛,向管理员提供了带有诬陷性质的信息,我在彻底查找此人。 最后,我会给所有人一个完整的交代。
---------------------------------------
我们的方法,我不认为是作弊:
用语音输入到Google earth 的搜索栏中关于宝石地点的信息,Google earth 的搜索我们已经定义好的宝石地点数据库,这样我们可以刹间飞到宝石所在的地点。
我在考虑是否就详细的数据公开,在我们内部进行投票,
因为 Google earth 的搜索 结合语音识别,来合理的找宝石 ,如果全世界 1/10的掌握,luke 有理由关掉挖宝的功能了。
---------------------------------------
如果
结合语音识别 的 google earth 的搜索, 大家认为是作弊,我无话可说,随便你们处理
如果不是作弊,我考虑是否完全公开这个找宝石的方法,与我们的敌人在同一个起跑线挖宝,,,
I know that all had wanted to know how we jewel, we did not cheat, we only perfect it... perfect to the limit.
We used voice recogintion to input the code, we use(sorry..i dunno what is that..something used in the military), it had 99.99% accuracy.
I will anounce that software to all players later and i believe 1/10 of them will master it. This will definately not unbalance the game.
I know suspect someone had went into the WTO forum and provide false info to the admin. We are now trying to find out who and will provide more answers later.
I do not agree the way we jewel is cheating:
Linking the software(voice recognition) with Google earth enable us to speed up the jewel process.
we are now voting whether we should publish this in public here.
it is very fair to use voice regonition to search on google earth, if 1/10 of the world use it then Luke will have to shut down his jewel script.
if you still think that our way is cheating then i had nothing else to say.
if not, i may consider sharing this program out.... and let our enemies jewel as fast as us...
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 03:04 AM Oh yeah, and my tool says the company IP, although the company is listed as a US company, the IP is addressed off of an asia service provider and the best guess I could get was that the IP was originated in Tokyo. I could do more work, but like I said, this was the quick and dirty.
thanks for the effort....
but it did say i am from US or Japan....I think Australia will come into the picture too... because i think my company had linkage to australia too....
well.. you guys are the experts...
hi141 09-03-2007, 03:07 AM 举个例子;
只要我设置好,我说一声:hi 土豆. Google earth 就帮我找到西西公主的床,
就这样简单~!
jokosr 09-03-2007, 04:42 AM if your using any other means to get jewel that i can use or the rest of gewar.....yes i think this is cheating period..and banning you and or others that use this way it the right thing to do......
I know that all had wanted to know how we jewel, we did not cheat, we only perfect it... perfect to the limit.
We used voice recogintion to input the code, we use(sorry..i dunno what is that..something used in the military), it had 99.99% accuracy.
I will anounce that software to all players later and i believe 1/10 of them will master it. This will definately not unbalance the game.
I know suspect someone had went into the WTO forum and provide false info to the admin. We are now trying to find out who and will provide more answers later.
I do not agree the way we jewel is cheating:
Linking the software(voice recognition) with Google earth enable us to speed up the jewel process.
we are now voting whether we should publish this in public here.
it is very fair to use voice regonition to search on google earth, if 1/10 of the world use it then Luke will have to shut down his jewel script.
if you still think that our way is cheating then i had nothing else to say.
if not, i may consider sharing this program out.... and let our enemies jewel as fast as us...
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 07:26 AM if your using any other means to get jewel that i can use or the rest of gewar.....yes i think this is cheating period..and banning you and or others that use this way it the right thing to do......
i dun understand what u mean .....
if I can use and u can use mean cheating ??? then u should be ban too :p
hhmira 09-03-2007, 01:05 PM i dun understand what u mean .....
if I can use and u can use mean cheating ??? then u should be ban too :p
Ronnie, I think he meant:
if your using any other means to get jewel that i can΄t use or the rest of gewar.....
jokosr 09-03-2007, 02:57 PM Ronnie, I think he meant:
if your using any other means to get jewel that i can΄t use or the rest of gewar.....
yes thats what i meant..everything needs to be available to everyone to use..what ever it is needs to be approved by the admin crew and put in script library so everyone can use it....otherwise its unfair advantage...and people been banned for this since the start of the game...
It really depends what scripts they are...
If there is a voice recognition for jewelling, it should be available to everyone!
This is a tool that makes the game easier for some, and harder for others.
There's a difference between scripts that CHANGE the GAME. e.g. redux, patton's tax, auto-occupy, voice-recognition, jewelling scripts
And scripts that do SOMETHING ELSE: e.g. Making communicaition easier, shoutboxes, relationship lists etc.
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 03:07 PM yes thats what i meant..everything needs to be available to everyone to use..what ever it is needs to be approved by the admin crew and put in script library so everyone can use it....otherwise its unfair advantage...and people been banned for this since the start of the game...
I dun see anything unfair here...
it is not a script......
what you mean by unfair advantage ?
everyone who plays this game needs to use the same config as stated
intel p4 2.0ghz processor
512mb ram
15" monitor
101 key keyboard
scroll mouse
connecting speed 512k
standard software installation of Windows XP and IE
anything that exceed the above config are consider unfair advantages as some players are using older machine...
anyone here still uses 486 ??? :growse
ps: voice recognition is not invented here after GEwar... it was not invented by the chinese either....
it was available donkey years ago.... and no one here thinks of using it, Now you are saying that it is unfair when the chinese uses it ??? wake up your idea ~!!!
jokosr 09-03-2007, 03:26 PM i said nothing about the chinese... You need to get over that !! I dont give a rats ass where you live or come from...most of the people playing this game dont even know what a script is..or how to even make anykind of advantage to use..so ya...to me its unfair....
I dun see anything unfair here...
it is not a script......
what you mean by unfair advantage ?
everyone who plays this game needs to use the same config as stated
intel p4 2.0ghz processor
512mb ram
15" monitor
101 key keyboard
scroll mouse
connecting speed 512k
standard software installation of Windows XP and IE
anything that exceed the above config are consider unfair advantages as some players are using older machine...
anyone here still uses 486 ??? :growse
ps: voice recognition is not invented here after GEwar... it was not invented by the chinese either....
it was available donkey years ago.... and no one here thinks of using it, Now you are saying that it is unfair when the chinese uses it ??? wake up your idea ~!!!
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 03:30 PM i said nothing about the chinese... You need to get over that !! I dont give a rats ass where you live or come from...most of the people playing this game dont even know what a script is..or how to even make anykind of advantage to use..so ya...to me its unfair....
my bad... too get use to it recently on "chinese"... :blush2
ok.. i myself also can't write any script...
a script here in this game to me is a program customize to specially run on this game.... something that cannot be bought off the shelve or download freely from the net and used here without further modifications on the program or software.
eg. you cannot use a jewel script(software or program) on warcraft to mine for something.
Audiobitch 09-03-2007, 08:36 PM Hey ronnielim,
Was I right about the company or are they your company's ISP?
ronnielim 09-03-2007, 11:06 PM Hey ronnielim,
Was I right about the company or are they your company's ISP?
i only know my internet access need to go thru the proxy at USA, san jose and the company is IBM
i dunno anything about the japan.....
hi141 09-04-2007, 05:13 AM jokosr:
单纯的语音输入,极其简单,但是你在Google earth 按 CTRL+F,你打个喷嚏,你看看你能找到什么?我们的输入方式要求将几百颗宝石的简码记在脑袋里,你能做 到?
我找宝石用的是语音
只要我设置好,我说一声:hi 土豆. Google earth 就帮我找到西西公主的床,
但是我们找宝熟练的,使用五笔输入法的自定义输入功能,重新定义键盘输入,我都做不到,你能吗 ?
hi141 09-04-2007, 09:06 AM 索性全盘托出:
1.装陈华五笔chenhu2
2.用记事本打开自定义文件chenzdym.chh
3.地标取首/第二个单词前两位字母来编码,数字不要,字母全用小写
如Al Masjid al Haram,Saudi Arabia
在chenzdym.chh加入alma 21.4222917,39.826208 这行就行
如 10 Downing Street
加入dost 51.50315378,-0.1264370 这行
4.保存chenzdym.chh,最好删掉其他五笔字库,再重启window用户
5.光标定到flyto,输入2-4位字母,就出来地标了
wayaya 09-04-2007, 09:59 AM 因为我会一些别人不会的东西我就是在作弊?嗯,狠有新意的说法,受教了.
让我冒昧的估算一下,大概超过50%的玩家不能象Luke那样流利的阅读英文(和游戏有关哦),那我们是否 认为Luke... ... Luke作弊? LOL
Gruss 09-04-2007, 03:42 PM all that needs to be said...
07-20-2006, 05:00 AM
Luke
Important
We have to be very strict on this:
If you use a script now that has not been submitted, even if it just moves several armies at once, you can be banned(Even if you are a donator).
So please don't use it if you don't want to share it.
From now on no warnings will be given on it.
cheuk18me94 09-05-2007, 02:16 PM OK, please say why do you ban hahato, CJQ and gdtv! I think you cannot say everything!!!
now i understand... i think i found the chinese forum with the scripts... took me long to translate all lol. But im pretty sure that's it unless im talking about another forum lol :D.
hi141 09-06-2007, 02:41 AM 这是我们用汉字输入法,作的宝石查找系统,全套的,在此向全世界公开,,,
http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=249228
这是我们用汉字输入法,作的宝石查找系统,全套的,在此向全世界公开,,,
http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=249228
u have a good point there... but i still dont understand how to make an account on this forum lol
jokosr 09-06-2007, 03:23 AM 这是我们用汉字输入法,作的宝石查找系统,全套的,在此向全世界公开,,,
http://bbs.godeyes.cn/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=105&ID=249228
my computer says this link is full of adware...and unwanted spyware...i would not click it if i were you
jinchf_sxzjcn 09-06-2007, 04:33 AM my computer says this link is full of adware...and unwanted spyware...i would not click it if i were you
Maybe you don't register on this forum. Try again.
I copied here,But I don't know how to translate the professional words.
1.装陈华五笔chenhu2
2.用记事本打开自定义文件chenzdym.chh
3.地标取首/第二个单词前两位字母来编码,数字不要,字母全用小写
如Al Masjid al Haram,Saudi Arabia
在chenzdym.chh加入alma 21.4222917,39.826208 这行就行
如 10 Downing Street
加入dost 51.50315378,-0.1264370 这行
4.保存chenzdym.chh,最好删掉其他五笔字库,再重启window用户
5.光标定到flyto,输入2-4位字母,就出来地标了
hi141 09-06-2007, 05:30 AM my computer says this link is full of adware...and unwanted spyware...i would not click it if i were you
总发帖量:243367 注册用户:87420
此系专业门户网站 非尔等跳梁之属可臆测 所载之笈亦非示与鼠辈也
奉劝一句:哪儿凉快,去那儿吧
If there is some kind of hack for vbulletin that translates chinese to english I would've installed it already .
i hope it can translate english to chinese.
我希望能够把英语翻译为汉语。
Nefertari 09-19-2007, 05:57 PM my computer says this link is full of adware...and unwanted spyware...i would not click it if i were you
There is no such ADWARE or SPYWARE as your computer said, at least my internet firewall software does not say so. I' ve visited that website for millions of times!
ronnliem辛苦了。
这,是一种什么精神? 这,是一种伟大的国际主义精神!
admire
lkm8888a 10-12-2007, 12:50 PM 老狼最近忙,我开始接手他的工作
大家可以去我的帖子聊天说话
purefrost 10-16-2007, 04:13 AM http://www.gewar.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7649&page=1&pp=10
大家去投票吧, Mandarin=普通話, 第一個選項 :)
hi141 12-10-2007, 11:55 AM 老狼,出来冒个泡吧,8要装看不到的
想你了
purefrost 12-18-2007, 04:49 AM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
nonet 12-18-2007, 05:14 AM 和黑社会有的一比 ;baddy
foskasse 12-18-2007, 05:28 AM Im sorry, this is all chinese to me... ;nopom
blankaesop 12-18-2007, 05:54 AM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
啊?真可惜,战友保重啊!再见!
hi141 12-18-2007, 12:13 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
霜(purefrost), 单纯 开朗 乐观 ,一尘不染
听两首歌将烦恼抛到九霄云外吧,
英雄泪 铁汉柔情
http://bulo.u2unet.com/uploadpic/post/2005_11/20051125142323835.mp3
青藏高原
http://www.tmzhyin.com/admin/newsimg/20078250440706.mp3
hi141 12-18-2007, 12:21 PM 霜(purefrost), 最喜欢听歌,
战友们,送几首自己喜欢的歌,给他吧
xczdx 12-18-2007, 12:38 PM *仪式肯定是要搞得的,再==吧
大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
祝你一路顺风
祝你一路顺风
那一天知道你要走
我们一句话也没有说
当午夜的钟声敲痛离别的心门
却打不开我深深的沈默
那一天送你送到最后
我们一句话也没有留
当拥挤的月台挤痛送别的人们
却挤不掉我深深的离愁
我知道你有千言你有万语 却不肯说出口
你知道我好担心我好难过 却不敢说出口
当你背上行囊 卸下那份荣耀
我只能让眼泪留在心底
面带着微微笑 用力的挥挥手
祝你一路顺风
当你踏上月台 从此一个人走
我只能深深的祝福你
深深的祝福你 最亲爱的朋友
祝你一路顺风
那一天送你送到最后
我们一句话也没有留
当拥挤的月台挤痛送别的人们
却挤不掉我深深的离愁
我知道你有千言你有万语 却不肯说出口
你知道我好担心我好难过 却不敢说出口
当你背上行囊 卸下那份荣耀
我只能让眼泪留在心底
面带着微微笑 用力的挥挥手
祝你一路顺风
当你踏上月台 从此一个人走
我只能深深的祝福你
深深的祝福你 最亲爱的朋友
祝你一路顺风
xczdx 12-18-2007, 01:01 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
哥们送你一首我百听不厌的歌
2月14,by深蓝乐团
:p jing-hui:pcom:pcn斜杠mg.mp3
不让我发带urls的帖子,前面加上3w三个:p是dot,文明用语
zhj117 12-18-2007, 01:11 PM 她出新歌了,想必你也听了吧,希望你也有个新的开始
、亲爱的那不是爱情
教室里那台风琴叮咚叮咚叮咛
像你告白的声音 动作一直很轻
微笑看你送完信 转身离开的背影
喜欢你字迹清秀的关心
那温热的 牛奶 瓶 在我手中握紧
有你在的地方 我总感觉很窝心
日子像旋转木马 在脑海里转不停
出现那些你对我好的场景
你说过牵了手就算约定
但亲爱的那并不是爱情
就像来不及许愿的流星
再怎麼美丽也只能是曾经
太美的承诺因为太年轻
但亲爱的那并不是爱情
就像是精灵住错了森林
那爱情错的很透明
很棒的旋律,
再送一首杰伦的 三年二班
训导处报告 训导处报告
三年二班周杰伦
马上到训导处来
~三年二班~
周杰伦
眼睛你要擦亮
记住我的模样
表情不用太紧张
我是三年二班
我专心打球的侧脸还蛮好看
黑板是吸收知识的地方
只是教室的阳光
那颜色我不太喜欢
没有操场的自然
为何比较漂亮的都是在隔壁班
还有考卷的答案
我刚好都不会算
没关系
再继续努力
没关系
为什么上课时举手很难
为什么拿线上宝物简单
为什么女生不喜欢太胖
为什么都别人手机在响
正手发长球的打法只是初级乒乓
反手短打再狠狠杀球是高级乒乓
回转技巧乒乓
前场速攻乒乓
对墙壁在练习乒乓乒乓
这第一名到底要多强
不用问 一定有人向你挑战
到底还要过多少关
不用怕 告诉他们谁是男子汉
可不可以不要这个奖
不想问 我只想要留一点汗
我当我自己的裁判
不想说 选择对手跟要打的仗
这第一名到底要多强
不用问 一定有人向你挑战
到底还要过多少关
不用怕 告诉他们谁是男子汉
可不可以不要这个奖
不想问 我只想要留一点汗
我当我自己的裁判
不想说 选择对手跟要打的仗
全体师生注意
今天我要表扬一位同学
他为校争光
我们要向他看齐
我不想就这样一直走
每天都遇上充满敌意那种眼光
等机会就是要打倒对方
这种结果我不要
这虚荣的骄傲
这目的很好笑
我其实都知道
你只是想炫耀
我永远做不到
你永远赢不了
我永远做不到
你永远赢不了
永远都赢不了
走下乡寻找哪有花香
为什么这么简单你做不到
坐车厢朝着南下方向
为什么这种速度你追不到
鸟飞翔穿过这条小巷
为什么这么简单你做不到
仔细想这种生活安详
为什么这种速度你追不到
不好笑不好笑不好笑
这第一名到底要多强
不用问 一定有人向你挑战
到底还要过多少关
不用怕 告诉他们谁是男子汉
可不可以不要这个奖
不想问 我只想要留一点汗
我当我自己的裁判
不想说 选择对手跟要打的仗
这第一名到底要多强
到底还要过多少关
可不可以不要这个奖
我当我自己的裁判
走下乡寻找哪有花香
坐车厢朝着南下方向
鸟飞翔穿过这条小巷
仔细想这种生活安详
那些曾经并肩作战的日子永远留在你我的脑海里,这些都是美好的回忆,
就像这首歌写的那样,过程比结果更主要。希望你能够明白。
学习不紧张的时候要记得多来看看我哦,霜
你是最棒的!!!
过几天就是圣诞节了,美国那边应该很热闹吧,另外祝你新年快乐,虽然没有礼物送,但我把我今年唯一的一个新 年祝福送给你,愿你在新的一年一切OK。
周杰 2007年12月18号晚 20:12分
Edith 12-18-2007, 01:34 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
链接就不发了 看歌词喜不喜欢吧~
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
带我去寻找
by 王啸坤
背起我的行囊
我要把你寻找
这世界那么大
你会在哪个地方
快带我去寻找
无法把你忘掉
那遗失的美好
是否还留在云上
我就要骄傲的一步一步一点一滴
让世界听见我呐喊的声音
像春天温暖大地(像昆虫布满大地)
你总会听见我炽热的心
你不要对我有太多担心太多怀疑
我只是单纯的自己
任世界沧海浮云
我愿怀抱一颗赤子之心
快带我去寻找
无法把你忘掉
那遗失的美好
还依然在我心上
我就要骄傲的一步一步一点一滴
让世界听见我呐喊的声音
像春天温暖大地(像昆虫布满大地)
你总会听见我爱你的心
也许你会说我一无所有一片痴心
我不会迷失我自己
来世间一场游戏
我愿怀抱一颗赤子之心
背起我的行囊我要把你寻找
这世界那么大你总会在某个地方
快带我去寻找无法把你忘掉
那遗失的美好依然在我心上
这世界多美好我要把你寻找
霜保重
Rocky 12-18-2007, 01:35 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
阿朋友再见,阿朋友再见
阿朋友再见吧再见吧再见吧
那一天早晨
从梦中醒来
侵略者闯进我家门.......
忘了这是什么歌了,送给永远的战士---霜!!
jiffy_1982 12-18-2007, 02:02 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
多余的话说了大家都伤感.珍重,你的qq还在大家还是在一起的!
大风起兮云飞扬,
威加海内兮归故乡,
安得猛士兮守四方。
送你首我喜欢的老歌吧。。。
甲乙丙丁
彩虹劝住雨的哭泣
孩子踢出水滴
闪亮街上恋人眼睛
寻常的巷子里寻常人家里
谁在轻轻哼著歌曲
不知昨日恋人你是否开心
我还记得你的表情
难得有的好心情
突然放晴的天气
彷佛爱情随时可能出现
彷佛每张脸孔都很顺眼
彷佛每个人有两个童年
彷佛做甚么说甚么心甘情愿
我们只是路人甲乙丙丁
在这个花花世界集体游戏
难得好天气
何不你对我我对你敬一个礼
难得好心情
整个城市欢天又喜地
路人甲乙丙丁
(music)
天空天天换穿新衣
讨好世人的心
今天真的表对了情
在许愿池子里
投一个钱币
每个都是爱的讯息
陌生人的眼里
有熟悉的记忆
了解让我们在一起
心灵乾净而透明
一闪一闪亮晶晶
彷佛爱情随时可能出现
彷佛每张脸孔都很顺眼
彷佛每个人有两个童年
彷佛做甚么说甚么心甘情愿
我们只是路人甲乙丙丁
在这个花花世界集体游戏
难得好天气
何不你对我我对你敬一个礼
难得好心情
整个城市欢天又喜地
路人甲乙丙丁
(music)
彩虹劝住雨的哭泣
孩子踢出水滴
闪亮街上恋人眼睛
寻常的巷子里寻常人家里
谁在轻轻哼著歌曲
不知昨日恋人你是否开心
我还记得你的表情
难得有的好心情
突然放晴的天气
卷起衣袖大步行
做路人甲乙丙丁
修了一天電腦,一上來竟然看見這個,真是莫名其妙,來核我的城出氣吧 ;nuke
Nuke me: http://www.gewar.net/war/playerinfo.php?user=5418;drunk
大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
tony7611 12-19-2007, 01:59 AM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
新长征路上的摇滚
一、二、三、四
听说过,没见过,两万五千里
有的说,没的做,怎知不容易
埋着头,向前走,寻找我自己
走过来,走过去,没有根据地
想什么,做什么,是步枪和小米
道理多,总是说,是大炮轰炸机
汗也流,泪也落,心中不服气
藏一藏,躲一躲,心说别着急
噢,一、二、三、四、五、六、七
问问天,问问地,还有多少里
求求风,求求雨,快离我远去
山也多,水也多,分不清东西
人也多,嘴也多,讲不清道理
怎样说,怎样做,才真正是自己
怎样歌,怎样唱,这心中才得意
一边走,一边想,雪山和草地
一边走,一边唱,领袖毛主席
噢,一、二、三、四、五、六、七
cnc1.yumon.cn/UploadFile/d91fce7c/003602/1683620152/4279.mp3
ronnielim 12-19-2007, 02:02 AM 我爱台妹,台妹爱我~~~
ghost19791002 12-19-2007, 02:51 AM http://www.shugan.net/userupload/1138017825.mp3 (http://www.shugan.net/userupload/1138017825.mp3)
过了这么长时间,我还是喜欢这首歌,送给你吧。希望能常回来看看
ronnielim 12-19-2007, 02:59 AM http://www.shugan.net/userupload/1138017825.mp3 (http://www.shugan.net/userupload/1138017825.mp3)
过了这么长时间,我还是喜欢这首歌,送给你吧。希望能常回来看看
我一直都在。。只是没发表
我很忙。。。应为我是牛仔。。。
ss4ever 12-19-2007, 03:05 AM 虽然不认识你,但至少在一个同盟
其它的话不用再多说,
其它的形式不必再重复,
兄弟珍重...
nanjingjacky 12-19-2007, 03:18 AM 连接发不出来,霜自己去找一下吧,很不错的歌
送给霜,我们最好的战友
歌词:
兄弟你 在哪里
天空又飘起了雨
我要你象黎明(听歌)一样出现在我眼里
兄弟你 在哪里
听不见你的呼吸
只感觉我在哭泣泪像血一样在滴
我一个人 独自在继续
走在伤痛里 闭着眼回忆
岁月锋利 那是最最致命的武器
谁也无法 把曾经都抹去
还有什么 比死亡更容易
还有什么 比倒下更有力
没有火炬 我只有勇敢点燃我自己
用牺牲 证明我们的勇气
还有什么 比死亡更恐惧
还有什么 比子弹更无敌
没有躲避 是因为我们永远在一起
用牺牲 证明我们没放弃
从未分离 每个夜晚都是同样的梦呓
自言自语 来世还要做兄弟
00oo.. 12-19-2007, 03:48 AM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
兄弟,走好。
(链接发不了)
光辉岁月
钟声响起归家的讯号
在他生命里
彷佛带点唏嘘
黑色肌肤给他的意义
是一生奉献 肤色斗争中
年月把拥有变做失去
疲倦的双眼带著期望
今天只有残留的躯壳
迎接光辉岁月
风雨中抱紧自由
一生经过彷徨的挣扎
自信可改变未来
问谁又能做到
可否不分肤色的界线
愿这土地里
不分你我高低
缤纷色彩显出的美丽
是因它没有
分开每种色彩
年月把拥有变做失去
疲倦的双眼带著期望
今天只有残留的躯壳
迎接光辉岁月
风雨中抱紧自由
一生经过彷徨的挣扎
自信可改变未来
问谁又能做到
今天只有残留的躯壳
迎接光辉岁月
风雨中抱紧自由
一生经过彷徨的挣扎
自信可改变未来
问谁又能做到
今天只有残留的躯壳
迎接光辉岁月
风雨中抱紧自由
一生经过彷徨的挣扎
自信可改变未来
问谁又能做到
今天只有残留的躯壳
迎接光辉岁月
风雨中抱紧自由
一生经过彷徨的挣扎
chenge 12-19-2007, 04:47 AM 伤心太平洋
离开真的残酷吗
或者温柔才是可耻的
或者孤独的人无所谓
无日无夜无条件
前面真的危险吗
或者背叛才是体贴的
或者逃避比较容易吧
风言风语风吹沙
往前一步是黄昏
退后一步是人生
风不平浪不静心还不安稳
一个岛锁住一个人
我等的船还不来
我等的人还不明白
寂寞默默沈没沈入海
未来不再我还在
如果潮去心也去
如果潮来你还不来
浮浮沈沈往事浮上来
回忆回来你已不在
一波还未平息
一波又来侵袭
茫茫人海狂风暴雨
一波还来不及
一波早就过去
一生一世如梦初醒
深深太平洋底深深伤心
officeman 12-19-2007, 01:33 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
好走 霜
喜欢你的头像,虽然似乎不是你本人的照片。
cheuk18me94 12-30-2007, 03:35 PM 大家再見啦, 他們決定要封號了,雖然不知道原因....不過大家好好保重, 注意天上飛的核蛋吧 ;bunny
又說封他的,己過了十二天了,嚇嚇人而己吧
hi141 03-26-2009, 05:41 PM 挖坟了 ,
purefrost 04-17-2009, 08:23 AM 久久沒來這逛逛了.....好像挺冷清的.....不知道大夥過得如何
這號過了那麼久好像還是被封......
誰知道離下一波重啟還要多久? 打算再回來玩玩 ;bunny
hi141 04-17-2009, 09:04 AM 久久沒來這逛逛了.....好像挺冷清的.....不知道大夥過得如何
這號過了那麼久好像還是被封......
誰知道離下一波重啟還要多久? 打算再回來玩玩 ;bunny
刚刚reset,不到2个月,你来吧
Starbuck 04-17-2009, 09:05 AM @purefrost come back and play again :)
久久沒來這逛逛了.....好像挺冷清的.....不知道大夥過得如何
這號過了那麼久好像還是被封......
誰知道離下一波重啟還要多久? 打算再回來玩玩 ;bunny
建议这轮就来玩~~~~~~~~~~~
Hippotree 04-17-2009, 10:48 AM @purefrost come back and play again :)
is he the one on the pic i post yesterday?
Starbuck 04-17-2009, 11:23 AM is he the one on the pic i post yesterday?
yes Hippo he used to be in our alliance when he still played :)
purefrost 04-17-2009, 10:22 PM is he the one on the pic i post yesterday?
what pic?? :eek:
Hippotree 04-18-2009, 10:31 AM what pic?? :eek:
上帝之眼上的一幅古老的圖片。
看看attachment。
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