Okay I am going to be making new Jewel locations for the game over the next little while.

As such I have to get lots and lots and lots of locations to drive all you scripters and placemark jewelers nuts trying to fing out exactly where Robben Island is.

Now I can do this alone and have people complain that its North American Centric or Canada centric or just plain wrong.

If you want to send me placemarks of your neck of the woods I am more then
happy to consider including them.

To prevent scripters from preparing for this update it is REQUIRED that placemark files are emailed to me at RomulusJ@hotmail.com and make the subject as GEWar Placemark.

Posting placemarks in this Thread is an EXCELLENT way to keep your placemarks from being included.

Here are the criteria of allowed placemarks
- Professional Sports facilities or Stadium that seat OVER 10,000
- National Landmarks
- World Heritage Sites
- Freaky interesting places (Area 51 fits in here)
- Amusement Parks
- Geographic Locations (Mountains, Lakes, (No rivers please))
- Islands (Wake, Easter, Christmas)
- Universities & museums
- Palaces & Parliamentary Buildings

What are rejected
- Rivers (Having a person travel a whole river to find the jewel is cruel)
- Things that are unlikely to be widely know - Schools, local churches
- Small sports faculties.
- Most Battlefields, Historic Event locations (Spot where John Lennon was killed)
- Ship Wrecks.
- Locations Libel to move in a GE upgrade ( Flying Aircraft, Boats, Buildings marked for demolition )

EX: How to submit a Location

Tornoble - Site of Canada's worst Nuclear Accident (Its a joke)

43°39'08.81"N,79°26'146.14"w

Listed in Wikipedia at www.thisisfake.thisisfake

(Or saying this is a world heritage site and giving me the listing from the UN Web site for that location works)


Thank You

RomulusJ
HRH King of Ferrets.

Wait, so this is definitly going to happen?
Comeone, I can't live without my placemarks!!
I can't bear having to waste more than 5 seconds getting my jewels.
NOOOOOO!

Wait, so this is definitly going to happen?
Comeone, I can't live without my placemarks!!
I can't bear having to waste more than 5 seconds getting my jewels.
NOOOOOO!


It is going to happen..

It very well could mean that with 5000 placemarks in the system scripting will be impossible and Jewels will go back UP in value. But it will happen. Also it is likely that a limit on errors in Jeweling in a day will be set up then if you go over it you will be unable to jewel for several days.

RomJ

Private messaged to me:

are you developing a new city list / jewel location for the game?

are you allowing users access to the city list kml? You yourself will have access to it, and i could honestly assume your friends would also? borderline not fair.... unless I am wrong? See my worry? I wish not to point fingers... only asking a fair question.

rather then post this in your forum, I thought it was better to keep the question away from public view.

My Answer
I will have have the following access to the Jewel List Database.

Email to luke with the new jewel locations coded ready for upload to the server or how ever its done. This file is likely to be in a formatted txt base file with coordinates and State / Country - I will try my very best to put it in a format so that its not just US states but the states/provinces of other nations depends how the code is currently formatted. This last is a long term goal.

"i could honestly assume your friends would also?"
You can assume anything you like. Will my friends alliance have access to the KMZ files I am working from and my personal Place mark files of the updated jewels. - NO. You have my word - and only my word I will not share the locations with anyone. After they are posted people can sell/post locations all they like but they will not get them from me. Also my plan is to set in motion a regular update of place marks so that scripting programs will never get all the place marks coded and will freeze up on new locations and Luke can see the cheaters who suddenly spike in errors.

"rather then post this in your forum, I thought it was better to keep the question away from public view."
This question will be asked and needs to be made public. Your concerns are valid and I am stating that my sharing of the place marks WILL NOT HAPPEN There is a place mark file out there with the current place marks that I have for this game. I will NOT share place marks with anyone. Just as Shadowdani does not even speak of the investment code algorithms to Alliance members, nor the High or Lows or anything but the function and outcome. (To much money given / Not enough / Putting a nice Stock Market link on the left hand side)

Further
I will NOT be jeweling - If I do it will be to verify jewel updates are working and Luke will get the geos I receive from this.

I am an avid Jeweler I love to see locations and enjoyed the rage I felt when I could not find quick enough a new site. This will be a modest personal loss to ensure the game is fair and cheaters caught banned and the thrill of hunting for Jewels is more then the thrill of clicking the same 50 place marks.

I have talked to Luke about a fair and modest daily payment to cover what I have lost in Geos from my jeweling. And modest I mean modest. I want this game fair, Fun and Cheating punished most severely. And no the amount and details have not even been really discussed. Jeweling is becoming a hobby to me not a dominate source of Geos..

I would really like to see Geos upped in value when this is fully implemented so the true honest geo hunters are rewarded.

RomJ

I agree, that if indeed we must go this route, jewels must definitly go up in value. Almost everyone at this point uses KML files, and it would be a huge loss of profit for everyone, unless the value went up. IE. the ratio of time spent to geos earned should reamin fairly the same. I hope luke and the other admins take this into consideration when setting the pay off.

Fix the Opera house, and add Uluru - thats all I want :)

T.

will we be still able to look for the placemarks for the jewels in the GEhacks???

else it will be damn difficult to look for hunt... the world is too big for just a small placemark and we need to zoom at least 10000ft to find it...

i personally think that those that have the placemarks as kml files loaded into the GE is not cheating... we still need to scroll, choose and key in the code...it is still alot of work for 1.21 :o

but this is indeed a good way to clean those scripters out... hope you guys can catch them and punish them..so that the others can enjoy the game better....

will we be still able to look for the placemarks for the jewels in the GEhacks???

No. BUT you will be able to find them in GoogleEarth Communities, Google Search. Simply put I do not want to have to focus on checking what is there and using only that. Which is why a) I am going to try and make the location clearer by adding Non-US State/Provinces. b) focusing on National and International locations. A google search asking for the GPS of such and such place ussally gets you the GPS location. :eek: Did I just give that away.

else it will be damn difficult to look for hunt... the world is too big for just a small placemark and we need to zoom at least 10000ft to find it...

I have placemarks for the current set at 13.14 miles - Stonehenge zoomed out so far that BOTH locations show up.

i personally think that those that have the placemarks as kml files loaded into the GE is not cheating... we still need to scroll, choose and key in the code...it is still alot of work for 1.21 :o

I do not think it is cheating. My placemark files are out there so don't worry I will not advocate the killing of this method. I will not use placemarks or locations put on this thread for the simple reason that scripters can anticipate their inclusion and modify their script. This is targetting scripts and the current 50 placemarks that everyone has. Its a source of income totally now. Its lost the OHHHH new place that I loved about it in the last server.

This is not a bash at the Administration. This is a low priority refit compared to other issues. It is something I can offer and enjoy making the package ever week and know that Scripters are going to loose. Scripting IS cheating.

Indeed I'd love to see a person try and make geos off findind a location and selling the data for how ever much.


but this is indeed a good way to clean those scripters out... hope you guys can catch them and punish them..so that the others can enjoy the game better....

Luke seems to have spotted several already 5000 jewels in a day with 25,000 errors is a scripter don't you think?! :D

Punishments are coming and when the first upgrade / update of the jewel files are operational I would like to see 2.0-2.5 geo jewels and the maximum error in security codes a day in place.

RomJ

Fix the Opera house, and add Uluru - thats all I want :)

T.

Uluru is already on the jewel hunt - it replaced the Opera House

And no comment about the Opera House. I will not confirm or deny what will be included in the new files. I will only say both these are acceptible into the Jeweling file.

:D

5000 jewels a day??? thats 5x i am doing~~!!! and 25000 errors for that is definately cheating~ :hand

what i am more worry about is a place to look for the GPS... :o but u have given the answer.. thanks... just hope i dun have to look everywhere in the net to get he GPS...hehehe...

But .... inplace it 1st and we will see the outcome...no point hammering u guys now as u guys are actually trying to help those that are not cheating...

5000 jewels a day??? thats 5x i am doing~~!!!
Obviously this is a joke :cheesy

But is this a wargame or a treasure hunt? Don't get me wrong, I like treasure hunts but if I have to spend hours a day searching for places for a measly 2-2.5 geos per place I'd rather go and find a more interesting kind of treasure hunt than simply searching Google for GPS locations.

I can understand the need to stop scripters. I assume it must be very difficult to stop scripting otherwise you would have done it by now; but couldn't you just put a limit on the number of jewels you can collect per day?

Obviously this is a joke :cheesy

But is this a wargame or a treasure hunt? Don't get me wrong, I like treasure hunts but if I have to spend hours a day searching for places for a measly 2-2.5 geos per place I'd rather go and find a more interesting kind of treasure hunt than simply searching Google for GPS locations.

I can understand the need to stop scripters. I assume it must be very difficult to stop scripting otherwise you would have done it by now; but couldn't you just put a limit on the number of jewels you can collect per day?

No that is not a joke THAT is a blatant cheater who got nailed. THAT is why I'm going scripter shall no longer rule.. ViCTORY Will goto to fair gamer who does not cheat.

Technically attacking a Pearl Harbour attack IS NOT CHEATING!! And all non cheating stuff is fair in Love and GEWars.

Death to Cheaters!!!

RomJ

No that is not a joke THAT is a blatant cheater who got nailed. THAT is why I'm going scripter shall no longer rule.. ViCTORY Will goto to fair gamer who does not cheat.

Technically attacking a Pearl Harbour attack IS NOT CHEATING!! And all non cheating stuff is fair in Love and GEWars.

Death to Cheaters!!!

RomJ

I'm sorry but I don't understand - are you saying ronnielim was cheating and got nailed?

But the main points I wanted to make were:

"But is this a wargame or a treasure hunt? Don't get me wrong, I like treasure hunts but if I have to spend hours a day searching for places for a measly 2-2.5 geos per place I'd rather go and find a more interesting kind of treasure hunt than simply searching Google for GPS locations.

I can understand the need to stop scripters. I assume it must be very difficult to stop scripting otherwise you would have done it by now; but couldn't you just put a limit on the number of jewels you can collect per day?"

Ronnielim didn't cheat...or at least didn't get nailed :D


But I look at it this way:
The jewels will be so easy to find(the exact location is there), so honest players won't have any problems.
But scripters will need to enter each new place to the script.

But I'm not doing it for that reason. As the latest scripts take about 5 seconds to add a new place(and thats faster then I can add them).

I'm just doing it for the magic of: ohhhhh a new place

I agree with grim sacre on this one, despite what most think, jewel hunting is pretty damn crucial for palyers. Doesn't the 250 jewel limit stop scripters already?

Ronnielim didn't cheat...or at least didn't get nailed :D




Ronnielim--> :growse :shoot <--Ronnielim

Just cause you're a donator, you think you can do anything you want. :hand

Just cause you're a donator, you think you can do anything you want. :hand :shoot


........................... :nana

:sealed <---ronnielim

Ronnielim didn't cheat...or at least didn't get nailed :D


But I look at it this way:
The jewels will be so easy to find(the exact location is there), so honest players won't have any problems.
But scripters will need to enter each new place to the script.

But I'm not doing it for that reason. As the latest scripts take about 5 seconds to add a new place(and thats faster then I can add them).

I'm just doing it for the magic of: ohhhhh a new place

It's OK for you - you don't have to do any jewelling :'(

btw I didn't mean to imply ronnielim cheated. I just assumed he was joking about 1k jewels a day - you were joking weren't you? :(

It's OK for you - you don't have to do any jewelling :'(

btw I didn't mean to imply ronnielim cheated. I just assumed he was joking about 1k jewels a day - you were joking weren't you? :(

As some know I am a jewel hunting freak....I actually enjoy doing it (I have no idea why :p ).

1,000 isn't that crazy...I've done it a couple times...I think around 1,400 is the best I've ever done...

neways..just so I understand....RomulusJ-sorry if you are repeating something

We will not be able to find them on GEH? We will be able to find them at the Google Earth Community? If this is the case does it hurt Mickey in anyway?

I've never looked on any other sites for the kml files...does it work the same?

But I agree....anything that can be done to stop scripting is ok with me (other than limiting the number of jewels in a day)

p.s. Luke-now I know why you were asking me if I make a bunch of errors entering the security code...lol...I just thought you were thinking that I'm stupid. HAHAHAHA Well, I don't make that many (compared to some of the above numbers) For ever 1,000 jewels found I probably fat finger 40-50 codes??? give or take based on the amount of beer I've had :growse

It's OK for you - you don't have to do any jewelling :'(

btw I didn't mean to imply ronnielim cheated. I just assumed he was joking about 1k jewels a day - you were joking weren't you? :(


nope .. i am not joking... but that was the beginning of the game when $$ is most needed....and 1000 take a whole day

what i am trying to day here is that Placemarks users should not be put together here along with the scripters... it is not fair to them. :mad:

nope .. i am not joking... but that was the beginning of the game when $$ is most needed....and 1000 take a whole day

what i am trying to day here is that Placemarks users should not be put together here along with the scripters... it is not fair to them. :mad:

i couln't agree more

p.s. Luke-now I know why you were asking me if I make a bunch of errors entering the security code...lol...I just thought you were thinking that I'm stupid. HAHAHAHA Well, I don't make that many (compared to some of the above numbers) For ever 1,000 jewels found I probably fat finger 40-50 codes??? give or take based on the amount of beer I've had :growse

Hahahaha... yeah, see 40 or 50 errors is nothing compared to the scripts, which make errors like theres no tomorrow guessing the code - the scripters stick out like a sore thumb.

T.

If they do, then why the necessity of changing the current placemarks?
Franckly, jeweling is very important when starting up, and I don't want to have to spend an hour searching on google to make a couple extra geos.
If the scripters are so obvious, and there are so many of them, then just ban all the scriptors and let the placemark users have their peace. Some of us do have lives you know.

We all need a little variety :) It'll take you two minutes to find the new jewel place, once, then you can set a placemark there and you're done - don't make such a big deal out of it :p

T.

Hahahaha... yeah, see 40 or 50 errors is nothing compared to the scripts, which make errors like theres no tomorrow guessing the code - the scripters stick out like a sore thumb.

T.

So ban them!

Of those of us who have to jewel hunt, so far there is wildcat for this and me, bulletcrazy and I think ronnielim (placemarks users should not be put together here along with the scripters... it is not fair to them) against it.

That's 75% in favour of keeping things the way they are. Why not have a poll and find out what more people think about it?

Feel free to start one - but before you waste all your energy convincing me, I have nothing to do with the changes - its Luke & RomJ's doing :p go camp on their doorsteps :nana :cool:

T.

We will not be able to find them on GEH? We will be able to find them at the Google Earth Community? If this is the case does it hurt Mickey in anyway?

I am not limiting myself to GEH or GEC (The offical Community). You may have to dig for some. But to date I have found none that did not have at least 3 GEC markers on them.

Also, it is my understanding that a code is being worked on to ban from jeweling anyone who makes 50 or more input errors in a 24 hour period. I think we have all agreed that 1400 is about the top a human can perform in a day. My top was around 1,000-1200 in a day so anyone over I would think is suspcioous. Why the banning length is to be determined (I'm starting to advocate 2 weeks up from the 72 hours I orginally thought.

Its also possible Luke will decide that a resonable human maximum exists, though I have not discussed this at all with Luke. I would say 1500 is the top a human can stand in a day but that is me and I do not make the call of limiting jewels.

This is also another point I want to make. Scripters and power jewelers COST the server in bandwidth. It is my understanding the reasonable useage clause on the server is smoked already. THAT worries me. Jeweling will only go up as we get players, even if I can get 50 new places every 3-4 days and remove the old 50 (one suggestion) its still going to be a huge Bandwidth useage as more and more people come online.

Luke is IMHO a great guy. He does a full time job here then some I am sure. He put out thousands for us to play. I am on disabilty RL (Now you know why I am on all hours) and thus a fixed income. I ponied up not for the perks but to help Luke keep the game going.

But I'm off thread.. This is me asking for placemarks to be emailed to me thread.... Moderator!!!

RomJ

So to get this straight in my mind:

1) You are going to make life more difficult by creating many more jewel locations - up to 5,000!;
2) This will make peoples' current place marks represent a small fraction of the new total;
3) You intend putting up jewel values to only 2 to 2.5 geos;

4) You say that this won't stop cheating by scripters;
5) You say you can spot scripters very easily - so you could ban them immediately;
6) You could/have put a limit on daily jewelling which will also stop scripting;

7) Once people have found the new jewel locations life will be back to as it is now except we will have to scroll through a much longer list of placemarks - a list of up to 5,000;
8) So I could just sit back and wait for somebody like wildcat who enjoys jewelling to collect all the locations and then buy the list of locations off them or buy them off a scripter.

What's the point of all this?



PS
Sorry if this appears to be complaining uneccessarily but for the vast majority of players jewelling is a pain in the a**e - why make it more so?

i couln't agree more

I have typed this several times. Already.
I AM NOT PICKING ON PLACEMARK JEWELHUNTERS

Sorry folks if it takes you a bit to find it sorry its going to take you a bit to find. I never even knew Mickey had all the sites in GEH until this THREAD!

Yes I found every one of the locations and GPS though Google.com and Google Earth Community - SOME took me 30 minutes so your damn right if I was going to place mark them!

It will take time. It will be annoying and you will find input errors that will be quickly fixed - Errors happen we will work to not make them but still expect them. Also if Luke sees this is working scripting is down and bandwidth is down (not one of Lukes goals) then ergo people must be taking more time to Jewel Ergo he raises the Value.

I'm with you guys you. I want to see jeweling profitible and fun. But if it takes making everyone hunt for 5-10 even 30 minutes for a location then damn it I do want to see Geos up accordingly. BUT since I came to GEWar there was one Update of the list. EVERYONE had ever placemark and it was robotic now - to me).

It shouldn't be IMHO. You still should SEE parts of the world you have not seen before.

RomJ

I have a question here...

sometimes my computer stalls...while jeweling...
example :
i enter the code and submit , but the page did not refresh to show a new location,.. say for 2secs.. so i continue to hit the ENTER key( 5 times) until it refresh ...

sometimes it just show a "x" for the next location... so i have to back to the previous page and submit again ....

will this becomes an error show in the system ???...if yes... then i am in trouble :p

Sooooo...

Search for up to 30 minutes and make 2.5 geos - this is a joke :D




I'm off to sulk now - I'll just have to sit and watch my resources grow :'( :sealed

I have a question here...

sometimes my computer stalls...while jeweling...
example :
i enter the code and submit , but the page did not refresh to show a new location,.. say for 2secs.. so i continue to hit the ENTER key( 5 times) until it refresh ...

sometimes it just show a "x" for the next location... so i have to back to the previous page and submit again ....

will this becomes an error show in the system ???...if yes... then i am in trouble :p

Nope, thats no trouble - we are talking about when you enter wrong security codes :) I wonder why your computer is stalling though, I wonder if its a problem with one of the scripts or on your end..

T.

Sooooo...

Search for up to 30 minutes and make 2.5 geos - this is a joke :D

I'm off to sulk now - I'll just have to sit and watch my resources grow :'( :sealed

Sadily its not.. I was a n00b once myself.
Do I expect any of mine to take that no.. BUt damn that Phillipine mountain gave me fits. Babawhahoho or whatever. Some damn website had the wrong GPS for it. MUtter curse mutter

And I was hunting mostly though Googgle.com and my own knowledge. One way I discovereI could be miles out was I'd find the Eiffel tower, need the arch du triumph and suddenly it would appear. Hehe

Stonehenge - BOTH of them was easy as I knew there was two sites from my time active in GE. I just found that thread and zoomed out till both showed up. 13.41 miles if people don't know that.

But again, 30 min only happened once then it was placemarked and life was again good.

RomJ

Nope, thats no trouble - we are talking about when you enter wrong security codes :) I wonder why your computer is stalling though, I wonder if its a problem with one of the scripts or on your end..

T.


i believe it is on my side ... maybe it is the connections or the computer that i am using... most of the time i use a P3 laptop without a 3D card..

but this usually happens in the night(my time) ...so i guess traffic is heavy as the europe side is all awake... asia had only little % of players :rolleyes:

I do not understand how scripts work but am I safe to assume from Roms quote below some scripts keep trying different codes until it gets the right one?
Luke seems to have spotted several already 5000 jewels in a day with 25,000 errors is a scripter don't you think?! :D
If this is the case, and it may have been suggested before, they why not add a time penalty for incorrectly entering a code?
If this time penalty was 1 minute and during this time the user is not allowed to enter the code again then any scripts using this method would be useless.

This would become frustrating when "fat fingers" like me enter the wrong code or I enter a 1 instead of a 7 but I would beable to live with that if it stops the scripters.

Thats a great idea Wes!! Oh, and welcome to the forums! :D

To avoid penalising "fat fingers" mistakes or 1/7 mistakes we could make it two tries, both a different code.. and if you dont get either of the two THEN a one minute penalty kicks in :)

T.

Thats a great idea Wes!! Oh, and welcome to the forums! :D

To avoid penalising "fat fingers" mistakes or 1/7 mistakes we could make it two tries, both a different code.. and if you dont get either of the two THEN a one minute penalty kicks in :)

T.

I don't normally have a lot to say so I keep my mouth shut. :sealed

Just thought it was a good idea...... Hangon I'm having another one..........

How about increasing the time penalty depending on the number of failed attempts.

First 2 attempts - No Penalty
3 Consecutive attempt - 1 Min
4 Consecutive attempts - 3 Mins
5 Consecutive attempts - 5 Mins
etc.
If it reaches 10 attempts notify the administrators that the user either has very fat fingers or is scripting.

I don't normally have a lot to say so I keep my mouth shut. :sealed

Just thought it was a good idea...... Hangon I'm having another one..........

How about increasing the time penalty depending on the number of failed attempts.

First 2 attempts - No Penalty
3 Consecutive attempt - 1 Min
4 Consecutive attempts - 3 Mins
5 Consecutive attempts - 5 Mins
etc.
If it reaches 10 attempts notify the administrators that the user either has very fat fingers or is scripting.


YOU give the most brillant suggestion of all time.... :love
I think the admin here should reward you with this idea~~ scripters will get their computers "HANG" for this~~ :D

I don't normally have a lot to say so I keep my mouth shut. :sealed

Just thought it was a good idea...... Hangon I'm having another one..........

How about increasing the time penalty depending on the number of failed attempts.

First 2 attempts - No Penalty
3 Consecutive attempt - 1 Min
4 Consecutive attempts - 3 Mins
5 Consecutive attempts - 5 Mins
etc.
If it reaches 10 attempts notify the administrators that the user either has very fat fingers or is scripting.


Brilliant thinking, 99! :cool:

This will definately be implemented ASAP, and if these are the kind of "non-ideas" that keep popping into your head you should be posting as much as Luke & I put together! ;)

Thanks again! and looking forward to reading more from you - I'll be linking luke to your post right now! :D:D

T.

We've done a lot of talking for weeks about that.
How much I like the idea(and we were talking about Geopunishment as well), it's almost not worth it anymore.
The newest scripts hardly make mistakes, let alone 1 mistake right after the other.

I'll keep it in mind though.

I seem to have diverted the topic off the original thread and maybe this should be in the Feature Suggestions, but will post this one here anyway.

I think i'm getting a better picture of the problems you are having with scripters...

Am I correct to assume the scripts know the position of the jewel for each location?

If so, how about.....

Moving the position (coordinates) of the jewel each time. The move would need to be random and would need to remain close to the "original" spot, this would mean that the normal user would still see the jewel in GE - just in a slightly different spot - but the scripts will be looking in the wrong place.

Just thinking out loud. :)

I seem to have diverted the topic off the original thread and maybe this should be in the Feature Suggestions, but will post this one here anyway.

I think i'm getting a better picture of the problems you are having with scripters...

Am I correct to assume the scripts know the position of the jewel for each location?

If so, how about.....

Moving the position (coordinates) of the jewel each time. The move would need to be random and would need to remain close to the "original" spot, this would mean that the normal user would still see the jewel in GE - just in a slightly different spot - but the scripts will be looking in the wrong place.

Just thinking out loud. :)
Mmm...no. If it was close enough to the original location for regular peeps to find it, it'd be close enough for a script to find it without too much modification.

howsabout changin the security code from numbers to letters, as there are more letters (a - z) than numbers (0 - 9), would this make it harder to script? or would it take 2 long for u 2 change???

It was suggested somewhere that we do trivia for jewels, ie; in order to collect the jewel at the pyramids you would need to be able to answer when they were built.. it would take a second of googling but would be pretty impossible to script.

If this is the case and we manage to get rid of scripting we will be able to make the jewels worth a little more :)

T.

It may have been suggested before but is it possible for a new number to be generated after a typo has been made?

It's no big deal for a "fat fingered" person to enter a different code rather than correct the typo but it might make things more difficult for a script if the number keeps changing.

Then combine this with the time penalties and limits on numbers of mistakes.

Will this make life difficult for scripters?

wouldnt it just be easier to close registration down for a week(so it lessens the work) and then go through all the error reports and find the cheaters, ban them and then reopen to forum?

So, you actually going to add any new ones, or what? I've jeweled latly and I'm only getting the same old crap, and I've got a hints file for all of those!
Jewel hunting was fun until I found all the locations . . . .
ZInc, destroyer of Newbs. :shoot

So, you actually going to add any new ones, or what? I've jeweled latly and I'm only getting the same old crap, and I've got a hints file for all of those!
Jewel hunting was fun until I found all the locations . . . .
ZInc, destroyer of Newbs. :shoot is

I sent 12 to Luke, apparently he's done something wrong as nobody I've talked to has seen the first test one.. Robben Island.

Now i have about 30 more to give him when he has time to upload.

Then then my we will have fund tring to find locations.

Send your suggestions to me at romulusJ@hotmail.com keep in mind the rules of the first post in this thread (We are way off topic here) and all will be happy in the land of Rom.

RomJ

I just sent two places RomJ so check ya email incase they went into the junk box, however i didnt put in their long and lat numbers, i just gave a description and sent kmz files

Is there an update on what's happening with this Rom?

I've got some suggestions if you're still looking...

So did this ever go anywhere? What about making jewels worth more the less often they're hit; i.e. if a jeweling spot isn't hit in 5 minutes (or whatever a reasonable rate is), it goes up 1 geo in value.

it will be harder to jewel if the list gets too long~~~

unless there is some compensation to it like increasing the value of the jewel... going around the world 80x in less then a day is not a very funny thing to do..hahah

100 places and 1000 places are actually the same to jewel hunters, something more interesting should be introduced into the game. Quality is more important than the quantity.

Hmmm, you're right. See the "Do You Like Jeweling?" poll thread for an alternate idea...

when i was a newb if there is one thing in life i thought was good it was jewelling here i go 50 jewels no prob then another 50 and another 50 aaannndd another 50.
god im sick of having to enter codes for 1.21 geos and having to try to find each jewel cos im hopeless at trying to find these places in google earth. :mad:
im seriously thinking of leaving this boring game then hooray someone has a list of the spots so i can get there quicker and build up my geos.
up go the geos now i got some money coming in so i can build up resources not have to jewel and finally get into the game and start enjoying it.
thank you hhmira and others who put out jewelling files you are deadset legends.
well i can honestly say that i loath jewelling now and i only wish there was some other way of starting the game each reset.
but it would be worse without the help of people like hhmira who do the hard yards
it was the only thing that stopped me from leaving the game in sheer boredom
so thats something to think about if you are going to make jewelling harder than it is now. because there are a lot of players out there who think the same way as i do

I don't know in the main game, but in the DONATOR GAME there is at least 1 new jewel location:

Robbens Island Prison, South Africa...

Now that we have some great ways of finding cheaters, I think it might be time to change jewelling a little.

I'm thinking about all new locations, but a higher geo convertion rate in return.

Now that we have some great ways of finding cheaters, I think it might be time to change jewelling a little.

I'm thinking about all new locations, but a higher geo convertion rate in return.
Just wonderng...is using the kmz file with all of the locations considered cheating? I got it on the forum so I'm just making sure. Thanks.

Just wonderng...is using the kmz file with all of the locations considered cheating? I got it on the forum so I'm just making sure. Thanks.

No it's not cheating. I also point people who are having troubles to it myself :)

That is not cheating, you are still doing all the work of finding the jewel, entering the number, ETC...
In fact the staff often tells members to download the Jewel location KMZ to help them.

Cheating comes when people use scripts and other tools, Not available to the rest of the GEwar community.

Some of these people have collected many jewels making it very unfair to anyone else in this game.

No it's not cheating. I also point people who are having troubles to it myself :)
Thanks Luke...just wanted to make sure.