YAY i just found out!! new convert all button! sry if i took the glory of telling everybody..

Thank Shadowdani for that one ;)

and what is when i dont want to convert all?

Until we have another use for oil, cotton and diamond, it should be pretty useless to just convert half.

i hate to be a complainer but can you set it so we have the option to convert whatever amount we want, like before, or simply "convert all"?

speedfreak227

I think my avatar is now a peek in the room of shadowdani as well.

Thanks - I like it so far. As you said there isn't much of a reason that I know of to only convert portions.

Gruss

i hate to be a complainer but can you set it so we have the option to convert whatever amount we want, like before, or simply "convert all"?

speedfreak227

"Convert all" is good enough for the moment.

With the new rules concerning resource income the single button convert all is fantastic. I can see as things are changed in the future that we may want to rethink it though.

The convert all button is a way against secret savers as well.
When they have a lot of resources and they are almost at their maximum of 10,000 of the allowed resources before you must convert, they can't choose to convert just half so they don't reach the 2500 geos.

The convert all button is a way against secret savers as well.
When they have a lot of resources and they are almost at their maximum of 10,000 of the allowed resources before you must convert, they can't choose to convert just half so they don't reach the 2500 geos.

Crap. I mean... oh yeah, good idea. :o

Thank you guys. Its a great help. Now how is the army building slider button thingie coming.

Just what i've been waiting on!

Now that there's only one field to fill out, can you do like Mickey did on the jewel verification screen and put the focus in that box? Just a little bit of convenience for the users.

If you're going to do that, you should also put the focus on the top box on the Deposit and Withdraw pages as well. For consistency's sake.

i like the convert all, but it took me a few minutes to come over the shock not being able to enter numbers (or don't have to ;) ).

Same here. I thought I had screwed up somehow. Or there was a bug. I needed those resources to which made it more frustrating, then I realised what an ass I was for not just trying to type the code. Yes I think we(me for sure) all feel like Luke's avatar many a time.

i like the convert all, but it took me a few minutes to come over the shock not being able to enter numbers (or don't have to ;) ).

yes i think we all came onto that screen for the first time and thought that there must be some problems.

I much prefer the "convert all" option, to try and make the game a little more transparent. No more hording resources. ;)

exactly - glad to hear you are all getting used to it and are happy with it, we couldnt stand the restless natives anymore and we caved :o ;)

T.

I don't much like it... I'd like to have the option to convert all, but not have that as the only option.

You might as well just immediately convert it to geos, just skip the whole resource step and it'll have the same effect.

I don't much like it... I'd like to have the option to convert all, but not have that as the only option.

You might as well just immediately convert it to geos, just skip the whole resource step and it'll have the same effect.

Question: Why would you want to convert only half your resources?

Question: Why would you want to convert only half your resources?

because it lets you stay under the 2500 geo cutoff.
just another strategy to apply.

and i agree with him, why not simply have them constantly convert to geos anyway now? for the small amount of programming you could save hundreds of member needles keyboard wear. ;)

speedfreak227

because it lets you stay under the 2500 geo cutoff.
just another strategy to apply.

and i agree with him, why not simply have them constantly convert to geos anyway now? for the small amount of programming you could save hundreds of member needles keyboard wear. ;)

speedfreak227


hahahah those were both the points:
1) we don't want users to stay under the 2500 geo cutoff

2) we don't want to make things too easy and perhaps even boring. You gotta work there buddy ;)

But in the future you might have both options then :(

I guess this should have been asked before, but what's wrong with just amassing money and not taking a city? If that's the way someone wants to play, why should it be disallowed?

Sure, they can hang back and just build up a boatload of money for months and then wreak havoc on the world around them, but isn't that part of the game?

I guess this should have been asked before, but what's wrong with just amassing money and not taking a city? If that's the way someone wants to play, why should it be disallowed?

Sure, they can hang back and just build up a boatload of money for months and then wreak havoc on the world around them, but isn't that part of the game?


Lots of reasons I can think of.
It's not in the spirit of the game.
It wouldn't work that way in the real world.
Helps prevent, or at least, discourage cheating.

birq, you're right, but the problem is that this is the smartest way to play the game :D

cities are a certain money loss, with some rare exceptions.

so for example, 50 people now really play the game, 50 save up.

in 3 weeks, they all get up, and kill the first 50 who then turn to saving.

etc, eternal loop comprised of saving, saving saving, no fighting at all, cause the savers just take the cities they want.

ofcourse then there's a 3d more patient layer of savers.

not a game i want to play i tell you, when i have money, i do something with it, take a city, build some troops, wash myself in it, possibly flirt with it.
and this is something we should build on (not the flirting or washing), but way's to invest that money, so as to get more money :).

Otherwise the game is about who jewels the most, or who has the most boring life so he can just adjust mines for like forever and then take over the world.

Birq, have you forgotten the guy with the 95k before the last reset?

he could have wiped us all out, he was getting like 4k a day passive income.

i mean wtf.

Lots of reasons I can think of.
It's not in the spirit of the game.

War? Wreaking havoc? Messing with your fellow players? How's that not in the spirit of the game? :)

It wouldn't work that way in the real world.

Huh? What are you smoking? Of course it would.

Helps prevent, or at least, discourage cheating.

I don't see that at all. Especially now that you can't transfer money unless you hold a city.

Otherwise the game is about who jewels the most, or who has the most boring life so he can just adjust mines for like forever and then take over the world.

Birq, have you forgotten the guy with the 95k before the last reset?

he could have wiped us all out, he was getting like 4k a day passive income.

i mean wtf.

When I complained about someone doing this in the first round (I think it was theMightSquiggles), I was told that it is annoying but it's part of the game and the best advice is to just do my best to get my cities back. Now it's not part of the game?

Please understand that I don't personally care, since this isn't the way I play. I'm being devil's advocate here. I think it's important that someone question the changes being made so that things are happening just for the sake of happening. And just because one or two people think it's a good idea doesn't mean that it is best for the game. (No offense Luke, Dani or T... you know I'm just thinking about the good of the game here)

Birq....there is a problem. Mickey was concirned about it too.
Have someone save up for 6 months and he becomes indestructable.
I know some might complain but this feature really stays :)
It's the best way against FA's and something terrible happening with savers in the future.
Play the game as it is intended to be.

It's akin to joining an open poker table when there is 10g on the table, and you throw down 40k.

Cheating? no.

Fair? no.

Good way to look like an a**$&^#? yes.

One reason I might not want to convert all resources is to get the maxiumum geos possible if and when the exchange rates start to change often. I might want to hold on to my oil, for example, until I gan get half again as many geos, assumig it will someday go up to .15 geo's/barrel. The same logic applies to the others; I might hold off on converting diamonds if the exhange rate is bad.

One reason I might not want to convert all resources is to get the maxiumum geos possible if and when the exchange rates start to change often. I might want to hold on to my oil, for example, until I gan get half again as many geos, assumig it will someday go up to .15 geo's/barrel. The same logic applies to the others; I might hold off on converting diamonds if the exhange rate is bad.
Exactly. Once true exchange rates are added to the game (however they might work), some people might want to hold onto as many resources as they can in the hopes that rates will go up, but still cash some in for some instant money.

Exactly. Once true exchange rates are added to the game (however they might work), some people might want to hold onto as many resources as they can in the hopes that rates will go up, but still cash some in for some instant money.

Is that bad? There's nothing more real-world than that.

the important thing is that at the moment there is no difference whatsoever.

we can annoy luke with this after he adds a fluctuating market. but i dont see how it would ever fluctuate, mines make money, everyone makes as much as they can. the only fluctuation would be opposed to population, or maby people keeping it in their pockets (but as the population increase will drive price down, this might not be smart..).

so not only do we need a market, we'd also need uses for it (white flag, diamond tooth and some petrol to make a general) and i think we're far away from that still.

Thats why the feature to add some resources is also coming back.
The thread did get a spin-off there as the feature that stays what I was talking about was the 2500geos limit.
You'll soon be able to cash in some of your resources again, with a button next to convert them all at once.

Is this better?

http://www.gewar.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1289#post1289

Thank shadowdani for that